[NTLUG:Discuss] Office forms

Sat Jul 22 10:50:37 CDT 2000

Off topic, but...

If you thought that KDE was slow....

On my computer KDE2 is a lot slower than KDE.  It seems to do equivalent
tasks in about double
the time as KDE.  For example, opening a window to display my home directory
takes 3 seconds
under KDE and 7 seconds under KDE2.  

Granted that I am looking at a beta release of KDE2, but I don't think that
there is much time
left for optimazation before the final release.

Regards,
Steven Gorwood

-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gibson [mailto:wabbit at tvec.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 8:13 AM
To: discuss at ntlug.org
Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Office forms

	I'm sorry I didnt mention that this is a p-200 computer. Like I said
Star Office runs slow, when I tried KDE, it was slow also, but might be
better now, but I have gotten into Gnome. I am downloading WordPerfect now
to try it. I knew there are several posibilities that may do what I need,
just didnt want to D/L all of them to find the "Right one" :)
	Thanks for all the input.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:57:26 Jonathan Brugge wrote:
> You can wait a few weeks: in September there'll be the release of KDE2,
and
> KOffice will be released too, or that's at least what I've heard. If you
> really want to try it, download the alfa/beta version of KDE2 and install
> KOffice-beta-release. I've haven't done so myself, but it is possible.
They
> say KOffice is usable already and they say it's good too. Take a look at
the
> KOffice-page at www.koffice.org.
> 
> Jonathan Brugge mailto:jonathan_brugge at hotmail.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <greenglow484 at juno.com>
> To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Office forms
> 
> 
> > Randall --
> >
> > I concur with James Skidmore's idea today, to try WordPerfect for Linux.
> >
> >
> > I'm not able to comment intelligently on other, established Linux text
> > editors there might be for your use; some of the older, established
Linux
> > tools.  Maybe someone else can comment on that further.  Also, I don't
> > have much experience with Klyx.  Have you tried it?  My overall
> > impression was, somewhat abbreviated like Abiword, but still a fine word
> > processor/ editing / composition program.
> >
> > I've only briefly tried ApplixWare on Linux; it did seem to be more slim
> > than StarOfc.  I definitely believe WordPerfect -- either V. 8, or,
> > probably, their V. 2000 (or V. 9; it goes by both monikers; I own the
> > Linux version 8, but not 9/2000) -- definitely_feels_, to me, like less
> > of a resource hog than Star Ofc.  (That's also definitely true in the
> > Windoze side of my machine; WordPerfect 2000 for Windoze does seem
> > slimmer/ more efficient than StarOfc 6.2, although StarOfc. 6.2 also
runs
> > a little better than 6.1 did.)
> >
> > In fact, my own bias is that I think Word Perfect, on both the Windoze
> > and Linux platforms, is a superior word processing program in every
> > respect, beating both M$ Word and StarOfc in anything you want to try
> > (except, perhaps, in opening files which were originally created in
> > monopolistic, proprietary, innovation-stifling, creativity-stifling M$
> > office document formats).
> >
> > I think one reason for WP slimness/ StarOfc. bloat is what Kevin Brannen
> > commented below, earlier today:   When you crank up StarOfc., it all
> > comes as a package, at once:  the word processor, spreadsheet, image
> > editor, etc.  Contrast:  WordPerf. is a word processor, solo; it may
have
> > some image editing, vector graphic or other schemes it can call on, but
> > it's basically a word processor by itself.  In the WordPerf. suite, you
> > don't get the spreadsheet app., unless you open that app. or call on its
> > functions; same as to graphics editor, etc.
> >
> > I just read something, somewhere, yesterday on the Net, that V. 6 of
> > StarOfc. is going to separate the functions, so only the individual
> > program, when started, will arise, not the whole package;  we'll see.
> >
> > Given that you disdain StarOfc. sufficiently, if I were you, I'd at
> > least_try_WordPerfect;  all you can do, at worst, is decide you dislike
> > it more than StarOfc., if that's the case.  If, instead, you do like it,
> > so much the better.  And, for $5 for a CD at NTLUG, you can't beat the
> > price (or download it for free from Corel).  (And, if you've got some
> > boxed sets around there, maybe you already have a copy on one of them).
> >
> > Sure wish KDE Office would get here; also, wish I knew how to code, so I
> > could try to help write the thing........
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:46:07 -0500 (CDT) "James L. Skidmore"
> > <james at linux-guy.com> writes:
> > > How about Applix Office or Wordperfect Office 2000? Neither is free,
> > > but
> > > I know for a fact that Applix is not the resource hog that Star
> > > Office is.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:54:12 Kevin Brannen wrote:
> > > > Randall Gibson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello to all :)
> > > > >         I have a desire to stop using Star Office to fill out
> > > some forms I use for work to close calls/order Parts/Timecard....
> > > Star Office is so extremely slow, it is a burden at often times, and
> > > I would like to keep it just for opening a occasional M$ Office
> > > document, not for everyday use. The forms are to be faxed in, so
> > > format is not a issue.
> > > >
> > > > Yeh, it is a real resource pig.  I suspect that if it were a set
> > > of programs
> > > > so you ran only what you used instead of 1 huge program, it'd be
> > > > reasonable...oh well...
> > > >
> > > > >         Basically all I need, once it is set up, is to tab to a
> > > few designated fields, fill in the blanks, choose from a couple drop
> > > down menu's for trouble codes, and check a few boxes for other
> > > options. This is to make it compatable with the M$ doc form my
> > > company sent me to do these tasks. It took quite awhile to get it
> > > setup in Star Office (I opted to use a database to track parts) and
> > > I am not happy with the results. Takes longer to open Star Office
> > > and then the form than it takes to fill it out.
> > > > >         I have tried Abiword, and it is missing several features
> > > I need. Hopefully later :)
> > > > >         Thanks for any input on this subject.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
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