[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Discuss digest, Vol 1 #510 - 4 msgs
feenix@ticnet.com
feenix at ticnet.com
Thu Oct 12 13:19:16 CDT 2000
Hi,
I'm new to this lug. Can somebody tell me when the nextNTLUG meeting is?
My ISP access is limited right now.
thx in advance,
Jeff
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> 1. New shirts are IN! (Chris Cox)
> 2. Re: SCSI scanner question (bobby at wrennest.com)
> 3. [pac at fortuitous.com: [alg] First Annual Federal GNU and Linux Users' Conference] (Phil Carinhas)
> 4. Debian and proposed change to social contract: clarification? (Richard Cobbe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:43:37 -0500
> From: Chris Cox <ccox at dallas.beasys.com>
> To: discuss at ntlug.org
> Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] New shirts are IN!
> Reply-To: discuss at ntlug.org
>
> IF YOU WANT ONE... READ THIS WHOLE MESSAGE FOR SPECIAL
> INSTRUCTIONS!!
>
> They will be available for sale at the next meeting.
>
> Pricing will be $30 for M-XL, $35 for XXL.
>
> The shirts are white knit shirts with a pocket.
> The logo is above the pocket (vs. being opposite the pocket).
> The logo is the state of Texas in red with the Tux penguin
> sitting on top of Dallas (more-or-less) and the letters
> NTLUG in large gold letters underneath.
>
> I will also have 3 one-offs that I had made: dark teal,
> cardinal red and putty. The problem is
> that they would not have pockets if we choose to order
> any of those. We'll take a loose vote at the next
> meeting and see what color to do next.
>
> QUANTITY IS VERY LIMITED (since this the first order).
> *** The shirts will be made available to people sitting
> *** in the middle section starting with the front row
> *** and moving up going from left to right on each row.
> *** Shirts will be sold AT THE END of the main
> *** presentation ONLY (make arrangements to stay until
> *** then). Have your checks ready and payable to
> *** North Texas Linux Users Group or EXACT cash.
>
> You will be LIMITED TO ONE SHIRT at this time.
> I WILL NOT TAKE ADVANCE ORDERS (though Stuart, Jim, Darron,
> Chris B. and Rick snagged a shirt already).
>
> Remember, the first rows of the middle section moving
> from the first row (the front row) row and going upward
> to the last row (the back row) in left to right order.
> Don't leave your seat! When it's time to sell, we're
> going to sell!
>
> Several people will probably come early to the
> Beginner's Group 10am because of this rule... KEEP THAT IN MIND.
> I wouldn't be surprised if people come earlier since the
> LIP meets around 9-ish.
>
> I may hold some shirts back so I can put them on eBay. :-)
>
> We will order more shirts, so don't get depressed if
> you miss out this time.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
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> Message: 2
> From: bobby at wrennest.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:30:47 -0500
> Organization: The Wrenn Nest
> To: discuss at ntlug.org
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] SCSI scanner question
> Reply-To: discuss at ntlug.org
>
> > typing "modprobe -av aic7xxx". If the module is not already loaded, you
> > will see something like this:
> >
> > yoursystemname:~# modprobe -av aic7xxx
> > /sbin/insmod -L /lib/modules/2.2.17/scsi/aic7xxx.o
> > yoursystemname:~#
> Here is my result /sbin/insmod -L /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/scsi/aic7xxx.o
> >
> > Scanners are accessed with the SCSI Generic (sg) driver. It can either
> > be compiled into the kernel, or compiled as a module. Try doing
> > "modprobe -av sg" and see if it loads, then do a "cat /proc/scsi/scsi"
> > and see if it lists your scanner.
> Again my result /sbin/insmod -L /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/scsi/sg.o
> and
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
> Vendor: UMAX Model: Astra 2200 Rev: V2.3
> Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>
> This seems a little odd!
> >
> > >
> > > I installed "sane-0.71-1.i386.rpm" with no errors.
> > >
> > > "scanimage --list-devices" returns "scanimage: error in loading shared
> > > libraries: libsane.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > > directory"
>
> Finally this produces
> scanimage: error in loading shared libraries: libsane.so.0: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>
> > >
> >
> > On this, you might try running ldconfig, at least that's what I'd have
> > to do on my system (Slackware 7.0). I'm not sure about Red Hat.
>
> Running ldconfig effects no change.
> >
> Progress is happening.
>
> Thanks again for the help. Any more ideas?
>
> Bobby
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:29:27 -0500
> From: Phil Carinhas <pac at fortuitous.com>
> To: ctlug at ctlug.org, discuss at ntlug.org, FtWorthLUG at egroups.com
> Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] [pac at fortuitous.com: [alg] First Annual Federal GNU and Linux Users' Conference]
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>
> First Annual Federal GNU and Linux Users' Conference
> October 30, 2000
>
> http://www.marketaccess.org/event_linux.asp
>
> This focusses on the Federal Government only........
>
> Who Should Attend:
>
> Government technical managers
> Agency executives
> Program managers
> Agency e-commerce planners
> Companies with Linux related products and services
> Government executives responsible for enterprise applications
> Linux users/developers
>
> What Attendees Will Learn:
>
> Where and how Linux is being used
> New plans for enterprise applications
> Innovative ideas and strategies
> New opportunities for Linux products and services
> Agency plans for new and innovative enterprise applications
> Best practices and lessons learned
> Clustering strategies
> --
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> -Phil C.
> .---------------------------------------------------------
> | P. A. Carinhas, Ph.D. | pac at fortuitous.com |
> | Fortuitous Technologies Inc. | http://fortuitous.com |
> | Linux Training Services | Tel : 1-512 467-2154 |
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> -Phil C.
> .---------------------------------------------------------
> | P. A. Carinhas, Ph.D. | pac at fortuitous.com |
> | Fortuitous Technologies Inc. | http://fortuitous.com |
> | Linux Training Services | Tel : 1-512 467-2154 |
> | Contract, In-house, & Onsite | 800 : 1-877 467-2154 |
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
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> Message: 4
> From: Richard Cobbe <cobbe at directlink.net>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:35:58 -0500 (CDT)
> To: discuss at ntlug.org
> Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Debian and proposed change to social contract: clarification?
> Reply-To: discuss at ntlug.org
>
> Greetings, all.
>
> I've been planning on trying out Debian for a while, and the combination of
> the problems with RH7 and some upcoming free time mean that I'm finally
> going to get the chance.
>
> However, before I take the plunge, there's something I'd like some
> additional information on. There's been a lot of discussion lately about
> some proposed changes to the Debian Social Contract that would remove all
> `non-free' software from the Debian archives.
>
> Could someone either post a brief summary of the issues, or post a link to
> such a summary?
>
> My questions are pretty basic:
>
> * What, exactly, is *in* the `non-free' collection? Is there a place on
> the net where I could browse through these packages to see exactly what's
> involved?
>
> * If the proposal passes and these packages are removed, would it still be
> possible to obtain the same software in .deb form from other sites?
>
> I guess I'm primarily concerned that it will no longer be convenient to
> install, say, Netscape on a Debian machine if this proposal is accepted.
>
> Hoping someone can clarify this,
>
> Richard
>
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