[NTLUG:Discuss] Bob Young's Statement to Slashdot

[mpatman@usa.com]

I totally agree I couldn't believe the 'you'd be wrong' statement it will be interesting too see what happens in the coming months. My bitch about 7 isn't about gcc it's about the offset kernel versions they're shipping and the file layouts with everything linked into /home/bin. OK so I can 'see' the method to their madness it keeps everything centralized but call me old fashoned but I for one would rather them follow traditional filesystem locations for binaries and source files.

I for one was waiting around for 7 to come out because it contained all the drivers I needed for my Gforce2 card that I just had a helluva time getting to work under Xfree4.0/.1. 

I installed the beta and wow everything came up and configured which was great if your like me and don't have alot of time on your hands to spend hours upon hours to get your configuration 'just right'. My only bitch was this odd version kernel they were shipping with it it wouldn't work with VmWare so I figured I'd wait until the final release and no problem well on the final release not only do they still have these funky kernel versions but the source files are incomplete and even after installing all the source RPM's I was able to get Vmware to compile a module but had problems getting the vmmon to load into the kernel! 

So I'll probably pick up again on this project this coming weekend. I think probably what I'll end up doing is going back to my good old friend slakware and be happy. 


>From: Chris Cox <cjcox at acm.org>
>Reply-To: discuss at ntlug.org
>To: discuss at ntlug.org
>Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Bob Young's Statement to Slashdot
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:24:09 -0500
>
>I think it speaks for itself....I'm very disappointed.  Basically Bob
>sounds like
>the problem isn't with what they did in 7.0... the problem is YOU!!
>
>http://slashdot.org/features/00/10/12/163218.shtml
>
> > So if you want to criticise us for shipping gcc 2.96,
> > you have every right to do so - you'd be wrong, but it is at least a
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > legitimate debate and I'd respect your opinion. But to compare Red Hat
> > to Microsoft indicates an ignorance of what is
> > driving our success.
>
>...and...
>
> > We may be making mistakes - that up to you to decide. Some of them may be
>      ^^^^^^
> > important to you and while I have no doubt you will point them out to us,
> > you have control over the technology you are using. We work hard to build
> > products that please most of our users most of the time. But if you don't
> > like something about Red Hat Linux you don't have to use that feature or
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > function. We simply are not pursing a business model that bears any
> > resemblance to Microsoft's, so just quit it.
> >
> > The next slashdotter who compares anything Red Hat does to Microsoft will
> > be punished. The punishment will be to find the nearest blackboard and
> > write "freedom & personal responsibility good, serfdom & tyrannical
> > control bad" seven hundred times.
>
>If I wanted a distribution that requires significant patching (e.g.
>getting
>to a real version of gcc and possibly recompiling many C++ programs)...
>I could get that anywhere...and certainly for cheaper than RH.
>
>People on Slashdot often behave like 4 year olds.... Bob must be a
>Slashdotter too!
>
>That's the end for RH in my book....
>Chris
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