[NTLUG:Discuss] RE:

[Steve]

Steve Baker wrote:

> The problem is that we are getting (I believe) an increasing number of emails that are related to
> problems in Windoze.  Aside from the fact that those are off-topic and annoying to those of use who
> don't use (or in my case - has never used) Windoze - helping people to fix those problems *isn't*
> helping them to migrate to Linux, it's giving them (and more important, their management) reasons
> to continue to cling to Windoze.
> 
> You have problems with outlook? - install Linux.


> You have problems getting X programs to display under Windoze? - install Linux on that machine.
> You can't print non-text files from your Linux box on a Windoze machine? - install Linux on that machine too.


These two are pretty Linux-related to me. So, according to you

"I'm trying to get Samba installed in my department as a file and print 
share but am having troubles connecting the Windows98 clients"

is not Linux related? That the answer is install "Linux on those 
machines too." ?

 
> 1) Everyone else can evidently read these emails or the list wouldn't exist.  Ergo the problem is
>    at your end and asking the list for help is silly.


I'm at the newbie level, but I always thought the point of Linux 
communities were to help others learn and share ideas about Linux. If 
the person wants to participate in a Linux discussion but can't, I'd try 
to help him out. It would be shame if nobody else felt the same.

> 2) We are LINUX experts and probably are the worst group of people to ask about Outlook problems.
>    (I've never even *seen* Outlook!)


I'm sure a lot of people have a decent amount of experience in other 
OSs. That is one of its strengths, its ability to play well with the 
other children. Presumably, this is true of its users.

Q:
"I'm having problems seeing my Netatalk server in the MacOS Chooser"

A:
"This isn't a Mac group. Use Linux on the client."

> 3) It's *always* rude to post unsubscribe messages to the main list...*ALWAYS*.

>> I can not and will not recommend this to others, unless you give a concerted attempt resolve the issue.
>>
> 
> 4) Never, EVER demand that people give you advice...we help people here because we want to - if we
>    choose not to reply to your email then that's just the way things are - threats to tell your
>    friends not to subscribe to NTLUG are just laughable.
> 
> This is a really bad breach of netiquette.


Well, ok, he is a boob for these two, and the attitude of his post to 
the public list is enough to warrant no help at all. Still, I find the 
"100% Linux and nothing but Linux" attitude to be odd for a Linux community.

Steve