[NTLUG:Discuss] RE:

Josh Miller josh_b_miller at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 13 23:04:56 CDT 2001


Okay, my turn to rant, I think everyone should have their chance.  Even if 
others don't want to read them.
No one complained when people ask questions about routers.  Which I think 
are pretty devoid of being OS specific enough for a linux list.  But I don't 
think there is a problem with it.  If you think people may have your answer 
write to them.  Most of the litter regarding this thread are people that are 
just bashing.  Had several speakers when I ws in school make the statement 
that where they worked they used Many OSs each for its own thing.
Now the Question in question was in regards to this list, or connectivity to 
it.  And if this list is not the proper place to ask about it, I don't know 
where he would go.  he certianly can't ask his Familly why he recieves some, 
but not all of his emails.

Personally I thought it was a problem with the List so I said nothing.  
Though recently connecting thru Hotmail(I know more MS dribble) I had one 
that said some garabage about not being readable, but I expect the ocasional 
miss sent email(if for no other reason then people running Beta Software).

So far as the problem its self, I have had a few problems With the Outlook 
familly.  Mostly they were from Using Betas then upgrading.  I have noticed 
that sometimes the file Database that holds the emails gets oppsed.  I have 
had MS browsers duplicate my emails, with one copy being INVALID. actually 
it said "the message you see can't be found".

The most constructive thing to narrow the NTLUG list out of the equation, is 
people with the same configuration admitting they can read with no 
problems.(DONE) the other would be to identify the sender that can't be 
viewd and gettign a CC to both the group and directly to make sure the group 
server isn't haveing an incompatability with the effected server.

Also, Have someone with a non-recieved emails send one to anyone else at the 
same business/connection and see if they can recieve it.  If they can then 
we know its a client issue.  If they can't, its more likely their email 
server(unless they have imaged email configs).  If their email server is the 
problem, it MAY be a unix problem, or it may be a MS service call to find a 
problem with exchange.  But till you can narrow the problem down don't 
assume anything.

Oh and if people have read this far into it and want my opinion on anything 
else, I have some suggestions about the HD with boot problems.
1) the MS "fdisk /mbr" is a nice fixall which has already beeen posted and I 
think it is so imature of MS to partition a disk and just assume that the 
MBR is already configured for them.  You know they don'tleave the MBR 
writing out of curtacy to other OSs. Course by doing so, they can just claim 
that installing Linux will prevent your BOX from ever booting.

Another thing to do, would be to install Linux, boot of the recovery disk, 
and use the tried and TRUE lilo.  Course if you plan on Dual booting NT 
variants with Linux, I suggest creating a Boot file in Linux, copying that 
over to NT and adding the file to NT loader.  Then you don't UN-MS 
compatable your machine.

Okay now everyone can yell at me for Writing off topic, and behind the pace. 
  But I hate when people reply with the exact answer 2+ times, so I had to 
get caught up with the group before posting.

- Josh Miller


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