[NTLUG:Discuss] Hi, all

[Brian Silvers]

MCSE = MUST CONSULT SOMEONE ELSE

> On 24 Oct 2002, MadHat wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 00:50, Christopher Baker wrote:
>> > > Training is still an important part of getting IT
>> > > employees up to speed on new technology..... I would
>> > > say certifications are not a complete waste.
>> >
>> > It's a waste if it doesn't help in the job market. I don't think
>> > mine have helped at all. In some cases, they may have actually hurt.
>> >
>> > I did not say that I am against education. What I am against is scam
>> > artists telling people that certifications are the ticket to big
>> > bucks.
>> >
>> > I got my current job from a guy who moved back in with his parents
>> > so he could work more on his MCSE. There is an entire industry
>> > scamming people like him. He thinks that if he spends time and money
>> > that this is going to pay off.
>> >
>> > The only people who will tell you that certifications are worthwhile
>> > are the people who profit from them.
>>
>> Security Cert specific, but a good idea of how most certs seem to be
>> now.  As someone who is trying to hire (not locally), Certs don't even
>> come into play, but I know specifically what we are looking for.
>> http://online.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/sfonline/columnists-item.pl?
id=118
>>
>>
>
>  I once went into an office and a man asked me to configure something
>  on
> windows.  I did it in about 2 minutes.  He said "Wow! A MSCE said it
> could  not be done!"
>
>  Those people have given a bad name to certs.
>
>
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