[NTLUG:Discuss] any feed back on RH 8.0 yet

[Jack Snodgrass]

On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 02:34, Kelledin wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:13 pm, Rev. wRy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 15:54, Chuck Graf wrote:
> > > Maybe a clean install would have been better.  But RH 8.0
> > > arrives without any functional multimedia programs, so I had
> > > to install Xine, and Noatun, and (I think) Xmms.
> >
>  <snip>
> > I thought the mp3 issue was that the codec
> > wasn't free (as in speech) and RH was trying to avoid legal
> > issues by not including the codec in their distro.  That being
> > said, it's simple to visit the xmms home page and download
> > their rpm.
> 
> You're right on that count.  Some mp3 format licensing ambiguity 
> emerged, the Ogg developers harped on it, some people got into a 
> panic about the "free-speech"-ness of the mp3 format.  AFAIK 
> that's since been resolved, and mp3 is accepted as a free-speech 
> format.

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Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss]  mp3 and rpm with rh 8.0  (was any feed
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On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 02:34, Kelledin wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:13 pm, Rev. wRy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 15:54, Chuck Graf wrote:
> > > Maybe a clean install would have been better.  But RH 8.0
> > > arrives without any functional multimedia programs, so I had
> > > to install Xine, and Noatun, and (I think) Xmms.
> >
>  <snip>
> > I thought the mp3 issue was that the codec
> > wasn't free (as in speech) and RH was trying to avoid legal
> > issues by not including the codec in their distro.  That being
> > said, it's simple to visit the xmms home page and download
> > their rpm.
> 
> You're right on that count.  Some mp3 format licensing ambiguity 
> emerged, the Ogg developers harped on it, some people got into a 
> panic about the "free-speech"-ness of the mp3 format.  AFAIK 
> that's since been resolved, and mp3 is accepted as a free-speech 
> format.

I am doing MP3 stuff on my RH 8.0 stuff. I just loaded some extra
things from 
http://www.xmms.org/
and I had MP3 stuff running. NOTE: xmms craps out if you don't
have some audio thing from KDE installed on your system. It 
mentions this error and the KDE thing you need to install to 
make xmms work on that www.xms.org page. 

As far as rpm goes, I trashed my system when I attempted to 
add mozilla 1.3a to the system using RPM. The RPM database 
was terminal. I restored my installation backup, added the 
rpm rpm update from ftp://people.redhat.com/jbj/test-4.1
and was able to update mozialla to 1.3a. I haven't had any 
rpm problems since. It's probably a good idea to backup 
your rpm database frequently. Keep several good versions
around incase you need to restore an older copy for some 
reason or another. 

jack