[NTLUG:Discuss] Spammer harvesting addresses from this list?

[fredjame]

That is sort of weak tea, as it might be said, but it may be all we can 
get.  Years ago (mid 1980's) I worked for a printer, and one of the 
customers did nothing but junk mail.  I found out from them that the 
national average for response to junk mail solicitations (at the time)  
was 3% or a little less, and he was doing really well at a little over 
3% response.  A response in his case was a purchase.  He paid about $50 
per million plus postage to send out his packages, or about $210,050.00 
per million mailed pieces.  3% of one million is 30,000 responses.  
210,050 dollars divided by 30,000 is a hair over $7.00, so he only had 
to clear $7/per response to cover his mailing cost for the whole 
million.  With electronic junk mail, I am sure the cost is much less 
"per piece".  In fact I had an offer to send to 50 million addresses for 
as little as $27.00 USD.  Short version - it isn't going to take a lot 
of responses to make it very much worth a spammer's efforts.  Sadly, my 
not buying is not likely to phase them.  Still, I don't buy from 
telephone solicitations, junk mail, or spam - period, end of report.

Neil Aggarwal wrote:

>Fred:
>
>I think Thomas was referring more to legit businesses that are
>aggressive in advertising themselves, but all spam has a benefit
>for the spammer.  They are all trying to sell you *something*.
>Not buying what they are selling is the best way to stop spam.
>If the spammers did not get a single cent from spamming, they 
>would not waste their time doing it.
>
>	Neil.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org 
>>[mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of fredjame
>>Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:12 PM
>>To: NTLUG Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Spammer harvesting addresses 
>>from this list?
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>>I guess I can appreciate that - but how does one track down 
>>the "vendor" 
>>without verifying one's own address for that "vendors" 
>>mailing list(s)?  
>>Is this just for so called legit business who unfortunately 
>>practice a 
>>bit of mass advertising (spam by another name still stinks), 
>>or can your 
>>"identification" method be used against all, or most, spammers?  The 
>>legit businesses don't tick me nearly as much as the seedy (deleted 
>>explicative).
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>>Cameron, Thomas wrote:
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>>><rant>
>>>
>>>Hi all -
>>>
>>>I just received a piece of recruiting spam.  I am reasonably 
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>>certain that the spammer harvested my address from this list.
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>>>The following is just my personal philosophy - I can't speak 
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>>for my employer, Bank of America.
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>>>Any vendor who spams me is warned that this will result in 
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>>that vendor being permanently and irrevocably blacklisted.  
>>That is, I will never do business with that vendor and I will 
>>do my best to ensure that no one in my organization will 
>>every do business with that vendor.
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>>>UCE is a plague, and I will not tolerate it.  I will do 
>>>      
>>>
>>everything in my power to make sure that spam costs the 
>>sender business.
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>>></rant>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>--
>>>Thomas Cameron, RHCE, CNE, MCSE, MCT
>>>Assistant Vice President
>>>Linux Design and Engineering
>>>Bank of America
>>>(972) 997-9641
>>>
>>>The opinions expressed in this message are mine alone and do 
>>>      
>>>
>>not necessarily reflect the opinions of my employer, Bank of America. 
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