[NTLUG:Discuss] OT: Fried
Clay Ramsey
clayramsey1 at comcast.net
Mon Feb 9 20:16:03 CST 2004
The only way for the turds in DC to do anything to stem the bleeding is
to regulate and restrict.
In a free economy, buyers seek the lowest prices, and the only way to
prevent this is to adopt pseudo-european hiring practices.
I don't think we want that here - it is VERY difficult to get hired in
France because it is VERY difficult (almost impossible) to fire anyone.
You are looking at a virtually mandated lifetime of employment. THAT is
why Alcatel is over here and elsewhere in the world and not so much in
France.
I'm not at all sure the remedy is better than the ailment.
When I got laid off in Aug. 2002, I "moonlighted" in IT support and
services, and a very good friend of mine pulls in 70k per year doing
just that.
Of course, there ARE all the hassles that go along with a sole
proprietorship.....
-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Edwards
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 5:04 PM
To: NTLUG Discussion List
Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] OT: Fried
clayramsey1 at comcast.net wrote:
> I agree with much of what you say, BUT....
>
> there is very little that anyone in DC can REALLY do to stop it.
>
> collectively, we are too expensive. I saw this from the other side at
my last job (IT support for headhunters).....
>
> Firms were paying BIG bucks in many cases for relatively lightly
qualified staff - and they DO NOT, or should I say, WILL NOT do that
again. Remember the "paper MCSE"? The "paper CCNA"?
>
> As I see it, the logic of the corp. staffing people will be this:
>
> "If we are gonna have "sorta" qualed staff, we're gonna pay less for
'em.
>
> The 90s are gone.... I just hope and pray for the next big US
innovation to come along.
>
> If I may make a ssuggestion - there are a SHITLOAD of small firms
still running 3.1, 95, and 98, in need of serious IT help. Hanging out
your shingle (directed at noone in particular) might be a good idea.
>
>
I'm not trying to belittle anybody, but I'm not talking about those
people. Those that just got started because it was a hot job market or
those that left school to cash in on the 90's dot com frenzy. I fully
agree that the price for code bangers got way out of touch with reality.
What people are not getting is that the hard core high tech pros that
built the infrastructures are out in the cold. System Designers,
Software Engineers, Lead Developers, and others. People that designed
the communication protocols that made the internet possible, designed
and built the digital switches so that SBC can offer DSL, and the
software that makes cell phones work. People that applied the theories
and did the hard work of maturing *nix and RTOSes that are the basis of
these switches are now serving others for $3.00/hr. The RDBMS engine
designers, graphics rendering tool designers, etc. We've become users
of technology, not designers and builders of technology.
Dallas is a good example. The dot com frenzy had very little to do with
the growth in Dallas. What made the Telecomm Cooridoor go was the
innovation from the designers and developers through R&D in switching
and high speed transmission protocols. Low interest rates for R&D money
and an experienced workforce made it possible. The workforce that made
it happen has been dumped for cheaper labor and the future of interest
rates is uncertain because of the deficit. What happens in DC does
matter to the planners in the executive suites.
Yes the dot com frenzy did add to the growth, but it would have happened
even without the dot coms. The Silicon Valley, Pacific Northwest,
Austin (here in Texas), The Golden Triangle, Los Angeles, and Eastern
Seaboard were where the dot com dollars got spent, not here.
--
Greg Edwards
New Age Software, Inc. - http://www.nas-inet.com
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