[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Discuss Digest, Vol 16, Issue 45
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Fri Apr 23 12:25:24 CDT 2004
What happened to group buy theory ?
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:57:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kevin Hulse <hulse_kevin at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
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> --- NTLUG <ntlug at nfri.com> wrote:
> > > So just to make sure I've got this right - we buy
> [deletia]
> > In the PDF that Chris sent out, it reads, that the
> > first 1000 LUG
> > members (of all of the LUGs listed on linux.org)
> > that buy the product
> > can register the product and recieve the $100
> > rebate. The rebate will
> > be sent in 8-12 weeks. But you buy the product
> > before you know if you
> > will get the rebate. This means that if I go online
> > and buy the product
> > right now, its possible (and I won't find out until
> > its too late) that I
> > won't get the rebate because 1000 people have
> > already registered. So
> > there is no way to know that you get the rebate
> > until after you buy it
> > at regular price.
>
> Well it looks like we don't have to speculate about
> the new management direction anymore...
>
> [deletia]
>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:59:23 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Rudy Avila <rra at clyde.dcccd.edu>
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> On a side note, the vmware license will hopefully not follow the same path
> as the everychanging online user agreement for wells fargo online banking.
> That damned agreement has gone through sooooo many revisions making it
> less inviting to participate in online transactions with wells fargo.
>
> Oops, forgot to introduce myself.
> I am Rudy Avila, formerly known as "UNIX Systems Administrator/jack of all
> trades" for the Northlake College Unix Certification program and partial
> maintainer of the CRISP and phred.dcccd.edu sites.
>
> visit http://snap.nlc.dcccd.edu
> and
> http://phred.dcccd.edu
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> Although I have been on this list for more almost a year, my studies
> at UTD have enveloped my time substantially.
>
> regards,
> Rudy Avila
> sysadmin?,unix only of course .
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> > 1. Re: VMware rebate - must register at VMware (Greg Edwards)
> > 2. RE: VMware rebate - must register at VMware (Cameron, Thomas)
> > 3. RE: VMware rebate - must register at VMware (NTLUG)
> > 4. RE: VMware rebate - must register at VMware (Rev. wRy)
> > 5. Re: VMware rebate - must register at VMware (Chris Cox)
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> > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:01:02 -0500
> > From: Greg Edwards <greg at nas-inet.com>
> > To: severian at pobox.com, NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
> > Message-ID: <4088085E.2090800 at nas-inet.com>
> > References: <408738CA.1040500 at acm.org>
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> > Ralph Green, Jr wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > How does there product licensing work? If I have two machines, say
a
> > > laptop and a desktop running VMware, do I need 2 copies or just one?
> > > How often do they come out with these releases that you need to pay
> > > for. Once a year or once every two years. If it is every two years
or
> > > so, that seems reasonable to me.
> > > Good day,
> > > Ralph
> > >
> >
> > I've been using VMware since before v1.0 and I've only needed to
> > purchase upgrades twice, IIRC. Upgrades are not the usual annual or
> > semi-annual most companys try to force you to do. In the past when
> > they've done an upgrade it comes with significant improvements in the
> > performance of the product.
> >
> > Now that being said, they are under new management so that could change.
> > I hope the new ownership isn't going to change the quality of the
> > product or the user retention approach from the past.
> >
> > License agreement says 1 license per installation. It's not clear if
> > that means 1 per user or 1 per machine. To get multiple users on a
> > single machine you need to give group write access to the vmware
> > installed directory. Caveat, I have not reread the agreement in several
> > years.
> >
> > --
> > Greg Edwards
> >
> > Hosted Websites from New Age Software - http://www.nas-inet.com
> > Anime, Manga, Lady Amaya - http://roseofcreation.nas-inet.com
> > Coppell Texas - http://coppell.nas-inet.com
> > Software Engineering - http://consult.nas-inet.com
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:42:13 -0500
> > From: "Cameron, Thomas" <Thomas.Cameron at bankofamerica.com>
> > To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
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> > > From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Chris Cox
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:15 PM
> > > To: discuss at ntlug.org
> > > Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
> > >
> > >
> > > According to the terms and conditions
> > > https://www.vmware.com/pdf/lug_terms_conditions.pdf
> > >
> >
> >
> > So just to make sure I've got this right - we buy a copy online, get the
serial number, register it, and then go back to vmware.com to request the
rebate, right? Do you know what the URL is to ask for the rebate? Also, is
it an instant rebate, or is it one of those "you'll get a check in 6-8
weeks" things that turns into 4-6 months?
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: 22 Apr 2004 16:42:18 -0500
> > From: NTLUG <ntlug at nfri.com>
> > To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
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> > > So just to make sure I've got this right - we buy a copy online, get
> > the serial number, register it, and then go back to vmware.com to
> > request the rebate, right? Do you know what the URL is to ask for the
> > rebate? Also, is it an instant rebate, or is it one of those "you'll
> > get a check in 6-8 weeks" things that turns into 4-6 months?
> >
> > In the PDF that Chris sent out, it reads, that the first 1000 LUG
> > members (of all of the LUGs listed on linux.org) that buy the product
> > can register the product and recieve the $100 rebate. The rebate will
> > be sent in 8-12 weeks. But you buy the product before you know if you
> > will get the rebate. This means that if I go online and buy the product
> > right now, its possible (and I won't find out until its too late) that I
> > won't get the rebate because 1000 people have already registered. So
> > there is no way to know that you get the rebate until after you buy it
> > at regular price.
> >
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong...and I would like to think that I am.
> > --
> > Woody
> >
> > In a world without boundaries why
> > do we need Gates and Windows?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:48:48 -0500
> > From: "Rev. wRy" <slot0k at pogox.org>
> > To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
> > Message-ID: <1082677728.20244.3.camel at suicide>
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> > On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 16:42, NTLUG wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong...and I would like to think that I am.
> >
> > Nah, yer dead on woody.
> >
> > R
> > --
> > About 50% of them are mediocre at best, and another 45% of them should
> > have as many of their products forcefully shoved up their asses as is
> > physically and mathematically possible, then flayed alive, the wreckage
> > of their bodies hanged over the sea, the corpses drawn and quartered,
> > the pieces burned, and their ashes mixed into a concrete brick which
> > shall be sealed in a leaden box and hurled into the deepest trench of
> > the ocean.
> > - John S. Novak, on dealing with sub-contractors.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:34:56 -0500
> > From: Chris Cox <cjcox at acm.org>
> > To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
> > Message-ID: <4088AB00.5020706 at acm.org>
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> > NTLUG wrote:
> > >>So just to make sure I've got this right - we buy a copy online, get
> > >
> > > So
> > > there is no way to know that you get the rebate until after you buy it
> > > at regular price.
> > >
> > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong...and I would like to think that I am.
> >
> > This is true.
> >
> > It's called risk. Still a good product at $189 though.
> > (shoot it's worth every penny of the original $300 IMHO)
> >
> > However... I know some msy not be able to afford it.
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:04:42 -0500
> From: Steve Southwell <ses at sagepost.com>
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> Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Finding huge files...
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> Odd thing happened to me yesterday... One of my clients' Apache servers
> just bombed, and SSL wouldn't run, but normal http would. As it turned
> out, the ssl_engine_log had hit the 2GB limit. It took me awhile to
> find out what happened, so I wrote this little script to find the
> largest files on the filesystem. I'd be interested in feedback or
> improvements, or perhaps I'm missing some sort of built-in command to do
> this...
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # findbig.sh - Find the largest files on the filesystem
> cd /
> for line in ` du -a -b 2>/dev/null| sort -g -r |head -n 200| sed
> s/^[0-9]*s*//g$
> do
> if [ -f $line ]; then
> echo `du -h $line`
> fi
> done
>
>
>
> --
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> President / CEO 214-280-6439 (Mobile)
> SagePost, Inc. http://www.sagepost.com
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> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:08:57 -0500
> From: Steve Southwell <ses at sagepost.com>
> To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Finding huge files...
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> oops, copy and paste problems... The $ on line 4 should be a backtic: `
>
> Steve Southwell wrote:
>
> > Odd thing happened to me yesterday... One of my clients' Apache
> > servers just bombed, and SSL wouldn't run, but normal http would. As
> > it turned out, the ssl_engine_log had hit the 2GB limit. It took me
> > awhile to find out what happened, so I wrote this little script to
> > find the largest files on the filesystem. I'd be interested in
> > feedback or improvements, or perhaps I'm missing some sort of built-in
> > command to do this...
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > # findbig.sh - Find the largest files on the filesystem
> > cd /
> > for line in ` du -a -b 2>/dev/null| sort -g -r |head -n 200| sed
> > s/^[0-9]*s*//g$
> > do
> > if [ -f $line ]; then
> > echo `du -h $line`
> > fi
> > done
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Steve Southwell 214-488-2239 (Voice)
> President / CEO 214-280-6439 (Mobile)
> SagePost, Inc. http://www.sagepost.com
> Internet Data Services Provider
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:41:01 -0500
> From: "Burton M. Strauss III" <Burton_Strauss at comcast.net>
> To: "NTLUG Discussion List" <discuss at ntlug.org>
> Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] VMware rebate - must register at VMware
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> What a load of cr*p from the whining puppies. Don't buy the product if
you
> don't need it and can't justify the $189 price.
>
> The offer is: "If you are among the 1st 1000, we'll give you a special
> discount!"
>
> WOW - What in the world is wrong with that?
>
> The fact is that they're choosing to reach out to the Linux Community and
> know enough to do it through the LUGs. We should be celebrating a
clued-in
> company.
>
> How about this - buy the product if you can justify the $189 price. Then,
> if it ends up costing you less, consider donating the $100 to an Open
Source
> project!
>
> -----Burton
>
>
>
>
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