[NTLUG:Discuss] Redhat Offerings -- the Red Hat bashing tour isback!

[Kermit Jones]

>>People running Windows 98 are people with unpatched
>>systems since
>>Microsoft no longer supports that product.  Of
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>Windows 98 isn't free software.
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>It's also a very poor frame of reference to compare
>against. It's not useful to use the worst vendor and
>products in the industry as your yardstick.
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You missed my point.  People don't upgrade from Win98 to WinXP because 
it cost them $100.  So if they won't pay to upgrade an OS they already 
use, they'll never pay for an OS they know nothing about.  My point was 
in reference to the "$109 Linux isn't expensive." I was stating that 
$100 is too expensive for most people.

So I wasn't implying Win98 is free, but it IS on a majority of older 
computers out there. (That I have encountered - the average Joe)

>No, Fedora is a "supported version" of Fedora.
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Fedora supports themselves?  :)

>It is has been forked into something that Redhat
>is no longer comfortable in associating themselves
>with directly.
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I thought the point of support was you stand behind your product.

>In this context, "community based support" is 
>equivalent to NO SUPPORT. Although that doesn't
>really matter. Being a Sun/M$ wannabe isn't the
>point at that pricepoint and never was.
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True.  I wish that many companies would realize the fallacy of this, 
though.  I've had better luck with community base support more often 
than I have calling Microsoft... or Redhat.  Ask a boss, "Sir, do you 
want us to pay XXX for two hours of support or would you like me to find 
the answer and fix it through some people I know."  Bottom line is 
usually: Make it work.

>>With regards to the names...
>>Red Hat obviously needs two separately trade marked
>>names in
>>order that they can treat the two products
>>independently when
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>This is not obvious at all actually.
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>Mandrake doesn't have this problem. Neither does
>Debian.
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Excellent point.