[NTLUG:Discuss] Redhat Offerings -- the Red Hatbashingtourisback!

[comcast]

Now I'm beginning to see everybody else's point about how you don't listen
or read a thing.
http://fedora.redhat.com - that's going out of their way to avoid being
associated with it?
"The Fedora Project is a Red-Hat-sponsored..." - yes, when someone goes out
of their way to avoid being associated with something, they *always* claim
to be sponsoring it.
"The Red Hat engineering team will continue to participate in the building
of Fedora Core" - again... When someone goes out of their way to avoid being
associated with something, they *always* sanction an engineering team to
participate on it.
"The Red Hat Linux Project, as this used to be called, is merging with the
Fedora Linux project." - and *yet* again... Nothing quite like merging a
project with a new project and thanking the new project for the idea to
faciliate "avoiding association".
I could go on and on, but I really doubt that you'll even listen to *direct
quotes* from the website. The website for the project you say Red Hat is
trying to avoid being associated with. The website that's a subdomain on
redhat.com.  
What else is there to say, except in the shorthand of the venerable IRC'ers:
"wtf"
Collin

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Of Kevin Hulse
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Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] Redhat Offerings -- the Red
Hatbashingtourisback!


--- comcast <collindavis at comcast.net> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but when I used RH 7.2/7.2, and heck, RH 9... 
> There was no "free tech support 800 number to call".  How is what 
> they're doing with Fedora any different?

They're going out of their way to avoid being directly associated with it in
the minds of people who would care about branding.

Whether a support number is or was ever involved is just a Red Herring.

> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Hulse
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> bashingtourisback!
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> 
> --- comcast <collindavis at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>Redhat is quite capable of doing that without
> > treating their test
> > distribution like some sort of
> > >>leper. All they need to do is maintain the same
> > level of "control" that
> > they had in the 3.0.3
> > >>days.
> > 
> > >>[deletia]
> > 
> > Leper? From http://fedora.redhat.com:
> > 
> > The Fedora Project is a Red-Hat-sponsored and
> community-supported open 
> > source project. It is also a proving ground for
> new technology that 
> > may eventually make its way into Red Hat products.
> It is not a 
> > supported product of Red Hat, Inc.
> [deletia]
> > 
> > 
> > -- Nothing quite says "leper" like sponsoring a
> totally free distro 
> > and having an engineering team work on it.
> 
> "help, but only from a distance"
> 
> That's very much like a leper colony actually.
> 
> > 
> > -Just a thought
> 
> Take away the trusted name and you might as well
> install Debian. This is the
> point. This is why this split is problematic for the
> PHB crowd even if it
> won't bother those for whom Redhat was their second
> distro back at version
> 3.0.3.
> 
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