[NTLUG:Discuss] I'd like to ask the hive mind.....

[Kenneth Loafman]

MadHat wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Chris Cox wrote:
> 
>> Rev. wRy wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 22:31, Brian Koontz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert--
>>>>
>>>> Richland no longer offers Unix.
>>>
>>>
>>> Er, the fall catalog offers several courses in Solaris as well as  some
>>> shell scripting.  I would think that indicates Richland does offer  
>>> Unix.
>>>
>>> Linux?  No.  Unix?  Yes.
>>
>>
>> I was teaching at CCCCD when they were trying to get an
>> "official" Red Hat program (rather than the Chris program).
>> Red Hat wanted to charge them over $30K/yr. just for
>> the priveledge.  Given that Cisco pretty much does their
>> whole she-bang gratis, CCCCD said "No".  Red Hat then
>> called me directly to try to work a deal.  They got the
>> price down to (I think) around $15K (again, that's just
>> so you can say the words... "Red" and "Hat"), but still
>> CCCCD said "No"... we'll actually I think they said yes
>> for awhile, but it didn't generate the dollars expected.
>> Sun saw an opportunity and moved in with hardware (for cheap)
>> and training opps (again without the assinine charges) and
>> took up residence.
>>
>> Of course, the real reason for the Linux decline is that "I"
>> wasn't teaching it :)
>>
>> I was teaching a very successful Linux program at CCCCD
>> Cont. Ed. when they made the Sun deal and basically
>> kicked me out.  I guess that was part of the deal.
>>
>> I went over to CCCCD's credit side and started teaching
>> there (for probably 1/4th the money).  That was successful
>> as well, but probably double the work load on me.
>> I had to give it up to save my family.
>>
>> In general, school's are pretty messed up.  They push
>> the good teacher's out (the ones that are truly motivated)
>> and accept the first bribe that comes along... and all
>> the while the adminstrators cash in.  Weird.
> 
> 
> I had similar experiences a few years back when I was teaching at  UTA.  
> It is sad really.

So, if Microsoft came in with an offer, they would push Sun out?

That would be very sad indeed.