[NTLUG:Discuss] Any idea howtogetaSprintEVDOwirelessbroadbandcard to
Wayne Walker
wwalker at bybent.com
Fri Jul 21 22:58:32 CDT 2006
when you are using the card, does it show up as a USB ACM device?
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 10:51:18PM -0500, . Daniel wrote:
> Wow. You're dead-set on the notion of NDIS wrapper to the rescue. The
> fact is, though, I have the very same card. I run it under Fedora Core 5.
> Never figured out why pppd didn't update /etc/resolv.conf, but that's
> another story... it works and I didn't need any special anything, including
> NDIS wrapper. I am a bit surprised that NDIS wrapper would also work on
> USB to serial devices though... never knew that. I just know what NDIS is
> for and what layer of OSI it resides in. I also know that since it's a USB
> modem/serial device and uses pppd to get a network connection set up, that
> definitely goes outside of the scope of NDIS.
>
> As for SuSE handling hardware differently from other Linux distros? Wow!
> Another new revelation. I've observed that Knoppix does an amazingly good
> job of detecting hardware and even utilizing it. The purpose of the
> suggestion was to get another view of the hardware... a second opinion if
> you will. I know mine works for me... but then I run FC5. Gettng another
> view will show us what modules get loaded and stuff like that. Compare
> that with what's not happening under SuSE and we'll have a pretty good idea
> of how to make SuSE act in a way that let's this thing work.
>
> > >From Ndiswrapper wesite ,
> >With ndiswrapper , virtually every miniPCI (bulitin), PCI, PCMCIA (Cardbus
> >only) or USB wireless network card works in Linux.
> >Although ndiswrapper is intended for wireless network cards, other devices
> >are known to work : e.g., USB to serial port device,ethernet card,home
> phone
> >network device etc. See Wiki entry List for devices known to work .
> >
> >On 7/21/06, . Daniel <xdesign at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting. Let's try another OS. Do you have a Knoppix or other
> live
> > > CD
> > > available to you? Can you get one? Let's have you boot up with one of
> > > those and see what an alternative OS reports to you.
> > >
> > > >Regular usb devices (I use Kingston memory stick) work fine.
> > > >When I plug in the Kingston, the system recognizes it just fine,
> > > >but even in this case there is nothing in /proc/bus/usb/devices (no
> such
> > > >file or directory).
> > > >
> > > >The kernel I use is the standard SUSE 10.1 kernel (Linux linux
> > > >2.6.16.13-4-default). I know some things changed in the 2.6 kernels,
> > > >that is what was referring to when I mentioned the kernel previously.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: ". Daniel" <xdesign at hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: NTLUG Discussion List <Discuss at ntlug.org>
> > > > >To: Discuss at ntlug.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Any idea how to
> > > > >getaSprintEVDOwirelessbroadbandcard to
> > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 06:32:21 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >That may be one of the best clues so far. You have no
> > > > >/proc/bus/usb/devices?
> > > > >
> > > > >Do you have any other USB devices that corrently work on this
> computer?
> > > > >
> > > > >And what do you mean "In this kernel"? Do you suspect it is
> compiled
> > > > >differently? That maybe it left out things pertaining to USB?
> > > > >
> > > > >Someone misintepreted what I said about NDIS wrapper. Let's get an
> > > > >understanding straight from the horses's mouth: http://www.ndis.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >---stat from the site---
> > > > >What is "NDIS"?
> > > > >
> > > > >NDIS is short for the "Network Driver Interface Specification". The
> > > primary
> > > > >purpose of NDIS is to define a standard API for "Network Interface
> > > Cards"
> > > > >(NIC's). The details of a NIC's hardware implementation is wrapped
> by a
> > > > >"Media Access Controller" (MAC) device driver in such a way that all
> > > NIC's
> > > > >for the same media (e.g., Ethernet) can be accessed using a common
> > > > >programming interface.
> > > > >
> > > > >NDIS also provides a library of functions (sometimes called a
> > > "wrapper")
> > > > >that can be used by MAC drivers as well as higher level protocol
> > > drivers
> > > > >(such as TCP/IP). The wrapper functions serve to make development of
> > > both
> > > > >MAC and protocol drivers easier as well as to hide (to some extent)
> > > > >platform dependencies.
> > > > >
> > > > >Early versions of NDIS were jointly developed by Microsoft and the
> 3Com
> > > > >Corporation. Current NDIS versions used by Windows For Workgroups
> > > (WFW),
> > > > >Windows 9X Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Server
> 2003
> > > are
> > > > >Microsoft proprietary specifications.
> > > > >--end from the site---
> > > > >
> > > > >So you see, since the EVDO is a "serial" device or modem, NDIS
> wrapper
> > > does
> > > > >not apply. USB is a bus architecture and can access a variety of
> types
> > > of
> > > > >devices. There are USB ethernet devices and yes, if the EVDO device
> > > were
> > > > >somehow an ethernet device, then it might apply. But for the
> moment,
> > > he's
> > > > >trying to get into Sprint's (actually Verizon's) wireless network
> via
> > > the
> > > > >modem.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have the EXACT same device. It works for me. Every computer I
> have
> > > ever
> > > > >used it with sees it as two USB serial devices, the first of which
> is
> > > the
> > > > >"modem" that responds to the "AT" command set. (ATDT#777 connects
> you
> > > to
> > > > >the network) The other device, frankly, is an unexplored mystery to
> > > me...
> > > > >never bothered to investigate what it is. (Could it somehow be a
> > > > >USB-serial device with access to 802.11 wireless networks? I'd be a
> > > bit
> > > > >surprised.)
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Here is what I am seeing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > ># cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
> > > > > >cat: /proc/bus/usb/devices: No such file or directory
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In this kernel, it appears that the devices are shown here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > ># ls -laF /sys/bus/usb/devices
> > > > > >total 0
> > > > > >drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 ./
> > > > > >drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Jul 20 12:56 ../
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 1-0:1.0 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-0:1.0/
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 2-0:1.0 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-0:1.0/
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 2-2 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-2/
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 2-2:1.0 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 usb1 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/
> > > > > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 20 17:56 usb2 ->
> > > > > >../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have not been able to find any difference in the usb devices
> under
> > > /sys
> > > > > >before/after
> > > > > >the card is inserted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also, usbview complains because there is nothing in
> > > > >/proc/bus/usb/devices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Rick Cook <rickcook at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: NTLUG Discussion List <Discuss at ntlug.org>
> > > > > > >To: NTLUG Discussion List <Discuss at ntlug.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Any idea how to get
> > > > > > >aSprintEVDOwirelessbroadband card to
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:19:53 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Thursday 20 July 2006 20:14, . Daniel wrote:
> > > > > > > > NDIS wrapper is for ethernet hardware. I couldn't imagine
> NDIS
> > > > >wrapper
> > > > > > > > helping out on such a device. The network connection is via
> > > pppd
> > > > >after
> > > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The device drivers' filenames seem to indicate that the
> device
> > > is
> > > a
> > > > >USB
> > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does "usbview" indicate anything present?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I tried using ndiswrapper. It did not work. I found two
> .inf
> > > > >files
> > > > > > > > >from WinXp install CD: nwusbmdm.inf nwusbser.inf.
> > > > > > > > >The ndiswrapper command ran without errors, but did not show
> > > > > > > > >"hardware present".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Also, when I insert the card, it does not cause any new
> entries
> > > in
> > > > > > > > >the "lspci" output. However, I still get the kernel
> message:
> > > > > > > > > pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Thanks!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Something I read indicates that what you have is probably
> treated
> > > as
> > > a
> > > > >USB
> > > > > > >serial modem. You might find some pointers at =>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/06/03/08/2138237.shtml?tid=20&tid=100
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Note that the "cat' command appears to be missing a redirect.
> Try:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >cat /proc/bus/usb/devices > devices
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Good luck,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Rick
> > > > > > >
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