[NTLUG:Discuss] the breaking point of spam

[. Daniel]

I'm willing to bet that I'm not alone in that I feel the best solution 
against spam just might be violent retaliation.

Hacking and trashing their networks won't stop them.  Laws won't stop them. 
 International borders won't stop them.  

I have had wild fantasies of picking up a newspaper to read a headline like 
"SPAMMER BEATEN SEVERELY!" or something like that.  I remember reading a 
similar headline -- the spammer was actually killed -- but unfortunately, 
the killing wasn't spam related... apparently, spamming was the least of 
this guy's activities.

I admit I am a bit of a typical American in that I can easily ignore all 
crime and suffering in the world until it starts to inconvenience me 
personally.  (I'm untypical in that I freely admit it!)  I hate drivers who 
don't know what "passing lane" means, if not in the legal sense, at least 
the moral sense of the idea.  Who are these people who drive too slow in 
the left lane forcing people to pass them on the right?  When I have time, 
I make it a point to get in front of them and slow down even slower than 
they are.  Who knows if they actually understand what I'm trying to say...

As for spammers?  I checked the news again this morning... no violence yet. 
 

Okay and on a more serious note: I hate to say it, but what if there were 
legislation introduced?  Legitimate vendors do not need to hide their 
contact information and legitimate buyers do not need to source their 
"junk" through spammers.  This is especially true of what I believe should 
be controlled substances.  Specifically, "via" "gra" and "cia" "lis."  
(Sorry to resort to spam-block avoidance tactics, but I didn't want to get 
blocked needlessly while I'm soap-boxing.)

I want to see people who BUY this stuff prosecuted!  If they don't have 
customers, they won't have motivation to keep spamming.


>Something is wrong with the technology when 91% of an email server's mail 
is
>spam.  Blacklists are NOT a solution. It appears that ComCrap is now
>incorrectly listing servers that forward mail for alias accounts as spam
>servers.  There seems to be no human contact at Comcrap but the automated
>utility seems to unlist multiple times upon request.  Other issues where
>static/non-dialup IP addresses are listed in SORBS (a volunteer-run
>blacklist that should never be used by a business interested in receiving
>email) can leave end users unable to resolve issues on their own and leave
>them at the mercy of their ISPs to get off SORBS...which....ultimately
>leaves the ISP at the mercy of SORBS who is wholly unconcerned with prompt
>resolutions.
>
>I've recently taken the stance that it is the recipient's responsibility 
to
>receive email.  I have quit trying to fight the myriad of lists.
>
>Where are people in the Linux community going to throw their support 
behind
>a replacement solution? AMTP looked good but doesn't look like it is going
>to be adopted.  Someone somewhere has GOT to think of something that can 
be
>implemented into the current setup that would make a cutover painless and
>desireable.
>
>--
>Richard
>
>
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