I am just now starting to fart around with ubantu server.. I really like what I see! How clean! apt-get also r0x0rz. One little question though.. Is there are quasi-gui kinda like mandrivas drakconf for managing system startup, ethernet interfaces and the like? -- Jay Urish CCNA Network Engineer http://jay.unixwolf.net 972.691.0125 972.965.6229