[NTLUG:Discuss] 'Smart quotes' in a konsole window

[David Stanaway]

MS  word or Outlook will convert your quotes into the left and right 
versions automatically.

Was that text passed through proprietary editor land and some point?

agoats at compuserve.com wrote:
> If you go back to the days of olde, there was an extension to the ASCII 
> text that added what was known as "escape sequence characters". The ESC 
> key was interpreted to be be an additional function allowing you to use 
> the CTRL and ALT keys to add another character set overlay to the 
> keyboard. That's when you were able to add the smart quote, greek 
> alphabet, etc. 
>
> With the newer version of Linux, UTF-8 is the major international font 
> standard being used, so here's a couple of links that might help:
>
> This one talks about the font standard
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
>
> This one has a table of the fonts and the HTML code to get them.
> http://www.tony-franks.co.uk/UTF-8.htm
>
> You should be able to find what font set is bing used by default and get 
> the font table for it to see what the "escape sequence" needs to be to 
> get the characters you want.
>
> Alvin
>
> terry wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Leroy Tennison
>> <leroy_tennison at prodigy.net> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Does anyone know how you get these when working in konsole?  I was doing
>>> the following and wondering why it didn't work (thought I was either
>>> going crazy or totally misunderstanding regular expressions):
>>>
>>> grep “\(first\|third\)” test3
>>>     
>>>       
>> I don't know where you get those fancy quotes.
>> My keyboard does not seem to generate them,
>> or I don't know how.  I can do two apostrophes ''  or just a quote "
>> and they both look the same and then there is the one that is lower
>> case from the tilda ` and I don't even know what to call it (accent
>> mark?), but none of them look like the fancy quotes you have.  But
>> that is all I can get out of my keyboard.
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> It wasn't until I did:
>>>
>>> grep "\(first\|third\)" test3
>>>
>>> and saw it work that I started comparing the two and noticed the
>>> difference in the double quote characters.  Unfortunately I had no idea
>>> how I entered them originally (I wasn't doing anything special that I
>>> knew I was doing).  I did copy/paste both lines into a file and look at
>>> it with hexdump.  The first quote is a multibyte sequence (e2 80 9c) and
>>> the second is a single byte (22).  Another point is that, in konsole,
>>> the 'Smart Quotes' don't look at they appear above (in my Thunderbird
>>> composition window, I hope emailing this doesn't cause 'conversions' to
>>> take place).  The first 'Smart Quote' looks like two commas
>>> superscripted and turned upside down, the second 'Smart Quote' looks
>>> like two commas superscripted but not turned upside down.  You get the
>>> same look in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.01 when you use double quotes.
>>>
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