[NTLUG:Discuss] 'Smart quotes' in a konsole window

[Leroy Tennison]

David Stanaway wrote:
> MS  word or Outlook will convert your quotes into the left and right 
> versions automatically.
> 
> Was that text passed through proprietary editor land and some point?
> 
> agoats at compuserve.com wrote:
>> If you go back to the days of olde, there was an extension to the ASCII 
>> text that added what was known as "escape sequence characters". The ESC 
>> key was interpreted to be be an additional function allowing you to use 
>> the CTRL and ALT keys to add another character set overlay to the 
>> keyboard. That's when you were able to add the smart quote, greek 
>> alphabet, etc. 
>>
>> With the newer version of Linux, UTF-8 is the major international font 
>> standard being used, so here's a couple of links that might help:
>>
>> This one talks about the font standard
>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
>>
>> This one has a table of the fonts and the HTML code to get them.
>> http://www.tony-franks.co.uk/UTF-8.htm
>>
>> You should be able to find what font set is bing used by default and get 
>> the font table for it to see what the "escape sequence" needs to be to 
>> get the characters you want.
>>
>> Alvin
>>
>> terry wrote:
>>   
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Leroy Tennison
>>> <leroy_tennison at prodigy.net> wrote:
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>>>> Does anyone know how you get these when working in konsole?  I was doing
>>>> the following and wondering why it didn't work (thought I was either
>>>> going crazy or totally misunderstanding regular expressions):
>>>>
>>>> grep “\(first\|third\)” test3
>>>>     
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>>> I don't know where you get those fancy quotes.
>>> My keyboard does not seem to generate them,
>>> or I don't know how.  I can do two apostrophes ''  or just a quote "
>>> and they both look the same and then there is the one that is lower
>>> case from the tilda ` and I don't even know what to call it (accent
>>> mark?), but none of them look like the fancy quotes you have.  But
>>> that is all I can get out of my keyboard.
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>> It wasn't until I did:
>>>>
>>>> grep "\(first\|third\)" test3
>>>>
>>>> and saw it work that I started comparing the two and noticed the
>>>> difference in the double quote characters.  Unfortunately I had no idea
>>>> how I entered them originally (I wasn't doing anything special that I
>>>> knew I was doing).  I did copy/paste both lines into a file and look at
>>>> it with hexdump.  The first quote is a multibyte sequence (e2 80 9c) and
>>>> the second is a single byte (22).  Another point is that, in konsole,
>>>> the 'Smart Quotes' don't look at they appear above (in my Thunderbird
>>>> composition window, I hope emailing this doesn't cause 'conversions' to
>>>> take place).  The first 'Smart Quote' looks like two commas
>>>> superscripted and turned upside down, the second 'Smart Quote' looks
>>>> like two commas superscripted but not turned upside down.  You get the
>>>> same look in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.01 when you use double quotes.
>>>>
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This one I know the answer to: No proprietary editors involved (but 
thanks for the suggestion).