From cjcox at acm.org  Tue Nov  3 17:03:23 2009
From: cjcox at acm.org (Chris Cox)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:03:23 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] November presenter?
Message-ID: <1257289403.4207.145.camel@geeko>

I had at least two people offer at the last meeting
to do presentations (in addition to Pm).  Could ya'll
email me with your names and what you offered to
present on (and if you're still willing to
present).

Side discussion on DFWUUG list prompted me to send this.

Thanks,
Chris




From hankivy at hot.rr.com  Tue Nov  3 17:45:45 2009
From: hankivy at hot.rr.com (Hank Ivy)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:45:45 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Linux Update Methods
In-Reply-To: <1257289403.4207.145.camel@geeko>
References: <1257289403.4207.145.camel@geeko>
Message-ID: <200911031745.45939.hankivy@hot.rr.com>

The 2010.0 Mandriva Release allows configuration of the frequency of checking 
for software updates.

-- 
Hank Ivy

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From cfgraf at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 07:43:36 2009
From: cfgraf at gmail.com (Chuck Graf)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:43:36 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] First Saturday
Message-ID: <160fb7640911060543o76db76f4p20fba86b434b8858@mail.gmail.com>

Tomorrow is First Saturday, and we are planning to meet the guys from the *Unix
Users Group* at the sale downtown.  If you have never been there it is under
Woodall Rodgers at Field Street.  I plan on being there by 7AM.  We are
going to try to promote Linux with a few installs on used PC's.  Hope to see
you there.

Chuck

From barnmichael at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 18:17:16 2009
From: barnmichael at gmail.com (Michael Barnes)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:17:16 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] W3 Web Validators - Good or Bad?
Message-ID: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure some of you do web page work.  What are the opinions of the
value of web site validators?  I've used several like the W3C site.  I
have run them on some websites and they report hundreds of errors,
other sites come out completely clean.  I've had a couple "webmasters"
tell me they are a total waste of time.  Of course these sites report
massive errors.

The few sites I work with, should I try to get them to pass the
validators, or not worry about it?

Thanks for your comments,

Michael


From jm5379 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  6 18:45:20 2009
From: jm5379 at gmail.com (jm)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:20 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] W3 Web Validators - Good or Bad?
In-Reply-To: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <772427f40911061645u46fce7f0s4b45b39b6e8d64b1@mail.gmail.com>

i use the validator.w3.org to validate what i do.  for me ultimately it's
just a matter of pride that i can generate a page that is compliant since
the real test of any page is whether it does what it needs to do and looks
'correct' doing it.  i'd say one less obvious advantage is that validating
helps you understand what you should actually do when putting together a
site rather than simply throwing together whatever seems to work.


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmichael at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm sure some of you do web page work.  What are the opinions of the
> value of web site validators?  I've used several like the W3C site.  I
> have run them on some websites and they report hundreds of errors,
> other sites come out completely clean.  I've had a couple "webmasters"
> tell me they are a total waste of time.  Of course these sites report
> massive errors.
>
> The few sites I work with, should I try to get them to pass the
> validators, or not worry about it?
>
> Thanks for your comments,
>
> Michael
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>



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From greg at nas-inet.com  Fri Nov  6 20:16:29 2009
From: greg at nas-inet.com (Greg Edwards)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:16:29 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] W3 Web Validators - Good or Bad?
In-Reply-To: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AF4D87D.6040301@nas-inet.com>

Michael Barnes wrote:
> I'm sure some of you do web page work.  What are the opinions of the
> value of web site validators?  I've used several like the W3C site.  I
> have run them on some websites and they report hundreds of errors,

I use the W3C validator as a check that there aren't any bugs in the 
page.  If the page passes the W3C validator then (in theory) the page 
will render as expected by all compliant browsers.  In the real world we 
know that some browsers claiming to be compliant really aren't.  A clean 
run through the validator means that your pages should come out right at 
least 95% of the time.  W3C is the standard so I wouldn't bother with 
the others.  Of course that's JMO.

-- 
Greg Edwards
http://edwards.nas-inet.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gedwards79


From larrydag at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov  7 11:22:46 2009
From: larrydag at sbcglobal.net (Larry DAgostino)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:22:46 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Texas Linux Fest
In-Reply-To: <4AF4D87D.6040301@nas-inet.com>
References: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AF4D87D.6040301@nas-inet.com>
Message-ID: <1257614566.6965.103.camel@larrydag-desktop>

I just noticed that there is going to be a Texas Linux Fest in Austin on
Apr 10, 2010.  I would love to go to this event.  How about a good
showing from NTLUG?  Any news?

http://www.texaslinuxfest.org/

-- 
Larry
Maximize Productivity with Industrial Engineer and
Operations Research Tools
http://industrialengineertools.blogspot.com



From russ.barrows at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 14:08:35 2009
From: russ.barrows at gmail.com (Russ)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:08:35 -0700
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hard drive conundrum - unknown data
In-Reply-To: <4AD007D5.5030309@prodigy.net>
References: <f904fa120910091214j14ca59dlbbb0a53bc8eadc7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AD007D5.5030309@prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <f904fa120911071208i41c03a5cr12f8685f94be7be0@mail.gmail.com>

>
> A few ideas:
>
> Boot to a Linux Live CD and run dd if=dev/zero of=/dev/hda (or sda or
> whatever). ?Now reinstall the OSes.


Thanks Leroy.  That did the trick.  After running the script above
(with the addition of a '/' ahead of the first 'dev'), I ran SpinRite
and during the SpinRite boot I was informed there were remnants of
three (3) illegal partitions.  This message was not present on booting
SpinRite before running the script.

Before doing this I had continued to watch this "blank space" as the
defrag in Windows sees it and watched it continue to grow with use of
the computer.  This curiousity is the reason it has taken me so long
to reply.
--
Russ

"Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
--Mark Twain


From paul.lipps at gmail.com  Sat Nov  7 20:17:09 2009
From: paul.lipps at gmail.com (Paul Lipps)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:17:09 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] First Saturday
In-Reply-To: <160fb7640911060543o76db76f4p20fba86b434b8858@mail.gmail.com>
References: <160fb7640911060543o76db76f4p20fba86b434b8858@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BDA25BC-109B-45C8-8B9F-6E9DEF203261@gmail.com>

On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Chuck Graf wrote:

> Tomorrow is First Saturday, and we are planning to meet the guys  
> from the *Unix
> Users Group* at the sale downtown.  If you have never been there it  
> is under
> Woodall Rodgers at Field Street.  I plan on being there by 7AM.  We  
> are
> going to try to promote Linux with a few installs on used PC's.   
> Hope to see
> you there.

I haven't been to First Saturday since the 90's. How did it go?


Paul Lipps
"Anyone who is unwilling to learn is entitled to absolutely nothing."  
- graysonf


From doug.scott at att.net  Sun Nov  8 13:08:26 2009
From: doug.scott at att.net (Douglas Scott)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:08:26 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Texas Linux Fest
In-Reply-To: <1257614566.6965.103.camel@larrydag-desktop>
References: <f4f839fd0911061617y4346b7f2p96eb15a2af338367@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AF4D87D.6040301@nas-inet.com>
	<1257614566.6965.103.camel@larrydag-desktop>
Message-ID: <200911081308.26547.doug.scott@att.net>

On Saturday 07 November 2009 11:22:46 am Larry DAgostino wrote:
> I just noticed that there is going to be a Texas Linux Fest in Austin on
> Apr 10, 2010.  I would love to go to this event.  How about a good
> showing from NTLUG?  Any news?
>
> http://www.texaslinuxfest.org/

Well, I will certainly be in Austin on that day.  My mother's 80th birthday is 
on on the 9th, so it is basically a required appearance if I don't want to be 
disowned.  :-)

Doug



From johnaustin1946 at gmail.com  Sun Nov  8 22:39:00 2009
From: johnaustin1946 at gmail.com (John Austin)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:39:00 -0600
Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] yes
Message-ID: <5b2ba9a00911082039h10803f02n75e3704ced23554f@mail.gmail.com>