[NTLUG:Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 85, Issue 18

[John Austin]

It appears that the casual user is out of his league with Fedora.  I had a
good installation of F10, but since that time none of them worked out of the
.iso  My interest is to keep up with current trends; however this isn't
paying off at all.
John Austin a noobee for 10 yrs.

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> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:42:36 -0600
> From: "Justin M. Forbes" <jmforbes at linuxtx.org>
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Giving Up On FEDORA
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> Sorry to revive an old thread, but this needed to be mentioned...
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> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:51:15PM -0600, Dennis Rice wrote:
> > In Fedora's desire to be on the bleeding edge and only support those
> > that wish to be developers, I am dropping it.
> >
> > I did an upgrade and it has FAILED!  What is worse, the previous
> > revisions have also been corrupted.
> >
> > I have a HP Compaq 8710p with three kernels presently installed,
> > 1.   vmlinuz-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.i686.PAE
> > 2.   vmlinuz2.6.32-0.65.rc8.git5.fc13.i686.PAE
> > 3.   vmlinuz.2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE
> >
> > On upgrading to fc11 and doing an upgrading to 12, 11 was made unusable,
> > failing at the GRUB.  Fortunately 12 did work.  Later a I did another
> > update and 13 Beta was installed (#1 above).  This worked generally ok
> > but the connection to my HP network connected (Jetconnect) failed.
> > Unfortunately at the same time the printer connection for 12, which
> > previously worked now failed.  This last week I performed another update
> > and the update to fc13 was installed and 11 was deleted.  Now both 12
> > and both versions of 13 work to a very limited extent.  All three
> > versions freeze up and the only thing that moves on the screen is the
> > mouse cursser.  The only way I can shut down the system is to do a
> > physical power off.  Applications work for a while and the lock.  Open
> > Office and Firefox have been made unsuable over any extend period of
> time.
>
> There is no Fedora 13 beta yet, in fact we are not even in feature freeze.
> What you installed was a development tree that may or may not work at any
> given time.  For an idea of where we are in the development cycle, see:
>
>  F-13 schedule:
>
>  2010-01-26  Feature Submission Deadline
>  2010-02-09  Feature Freeze
>  2010-02-16  Alpha Freeze
>  2010-03-23  Beta (Final Development) Freeze
>  2010-04-29  Compose Release Candidate
>
>
> >
> > I do not wish to be part of the bug reporting process because to me, as
> > just an end user, it is too complex of a process.  I am not a programmer
> > or developer, just a basic user that likes the power of freedom of
> > Linux.  My discuss with Fedora is not allowed to be written down.  I am
> > hopeful that someone on the Fedora team is able to read this and learn
> > that they are orienting the OS to a select group of users and thus
> > cutting off many other users.  If they want the mass user base to keep
> > using their OS, then they need to make it usable and issue a quality
> > product.  I did not request the upgrade to 13, it was forced upon me and
> > from that point on the quality of the system deteriorated.  I will now
> > be switching to another distribution.
>
> As a basic user who does "not wish to be part of the bug reporting process"
> I would highly recommend avoiding the rawhide trees all together, but
> especially before the Alpha release next month, and probably before the
> Beta release of F13 in March.
> Rawhide is great for testing and devlopment, I run it on several machines,
> but I don't move my primary desktop until after Alpha sometime, and don't
> ever put my laptop on the rawhide tree.
>
> Justin
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