[NTLUG:Discuss] Strainge Request, Maybe?

Daniel Hauck xdesign at hotmail.com
Mon May 7 11:38:11 CDT 2001


That Win2k problem exists even behind the firewall.

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Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Strainge Request, Maybe?


>
>   perhaps you could point out the win2k bug that allows anyone on the web
> to own a win2k box in a matter of seconds.  It came on the scene last
> week.
>
>   Win2k is not a bad choice behind a firewall.  It is not appropriate in
> front of a firewall for at least two more years.  The issue is the fact
> that you don't have over 10,000 eyes looking at the code uncovering
> security issues -- and getting them fixed the same day -- with Win2k.  You
> can guarantee that there are other system owning exploits of Windows,
> which may or may not be fixed as Microsoft wills it.  Linux bugs get fixed
> quickly -- often within hours.
>
>   The price for Win2k goes up about $100 for each user for various
> licenses -- file server, Database server, yearly software rental.  This
> can make a 100 user software shop cost the company $10,000 a year (or
> more) in recurring expenses, whether or not the software has problems.
>
>   The recurring expenses for Linux are $0 for software licenses.
>
>   Every month, more Apache web servers are being put on the net than exist
> in total Win2k installed user base.  The question to ask it why?  The
> answer is three fold: 1) Reliability, 2) Security, 3) Cost.
>
>   If they want to drain their bottom line, let them know they can go
> ahead, but it will affect the profitability of the company.
>
>
> wade
>
>
> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Carter B. Bennett wrote:
>
> > I am proud of my Linux boxes, I am using them for Web and email
services.
> > Our payroll and AP are even running on a Red Hat box. But now the worst
has
> > happened, the owner has hired a consulting firm to tell them Windoz is
the
> > only way to go  and scare them away from Linux.
> >
> > Enough with the background, I am looking for data on when NT or Win 2k
Pro.
> > fall on there face as opposed to Unix. I don't know if I will be able to
> > keep my linux boxes but I would at least settle for Sun's OS in the
backend.
> >
> > I am looking for data on scaling Win whatever vs Unix, reliability, and
> > security issues. I know this is short notice but I have a 1:00 PM
meeting
> > and would like some info if anyone knows where I can look, the data
needs
> > to be pretty straight forward these people are VP's and P's not techs.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, as always.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carter B. Bennett
> > The Dunlap Company
> > Fort Worth, TX
> >
> > email: cbbennett at dunlaps.com
> > Voice: 817-347-0258
> > Fax:    817-877-1302
> >
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