[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2

David Camm bbai at onramp.net
Sat Aug 11 00:04:16 CDT 2001


well, one learns something new every day...

pardon me for having (a) a more than full-time job and (b) a full-time
family which prevents me from coming to meetings (as much as i'd like
to).

i sit here humbly admonished.

david camm

ps - would you care to share with wisdom with those of us who might want
to know?

Daniel Hauck wrote:
> 
> A certificate from a CA is *NOT* required.  Go to the NTLUG meetings and you
> might have known that. ;)
> 
> Secondly, the solution was, if I didn't need to spell it out was to have
> someone else host a page at:
> 
> http://www.domain.com
> 
> Where the page does a redirect to:
> 
> https://secure.domain.com
> 
> Different names for different IPs.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Camm" <bbai at onramp.net>
> To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2
> 
> > while ssl support is now built into the latest versions of apache, in
> > order for it to work,
> > you need a certificate from a CA (certification authority) like Verisign
> > or Thawte, which is not free. Thawte is currently charging $125/year (i
> > think).
> >
> > also, if you change your url to https://www.mydomain.com/ think of the
> > <exaggerate>hundreds of thousands </exaggerate> of surfers who have hit
> > your site and can't find it any more.
> >
> > this is NOT a real-world solution for personal websites.
> >
> > david camm
> > advanced web systems
> >
> > Daniel Hauck wrote:
> > >
> > > Obviously some of us survived and some of us didn't.  That's not to say
> they
> > > aren't getting around to it later though...
> > >
> > > My brother's machine is still web-available as is mine and we are in
> vastly
> > > different areas.  I think they merely shut down some of the ones
> producing
> > > higher traffic.  It has definitely made a difference though... I am down
> to
> > > only 100+ hits per day now as opposed to the previously higher rate of
> 500+.
> > > (rates are guestimated, not measured and then approximated.)  I hope
> they
> > > don't block us all off or I will be forced to seek other alternatives in
> my
> > > web hosting efforts...like running on port 8080 or 81 or something like
> > > that... I hate non-standard ports though... it's just kinda ugly...oh
> > > wait... :)  I GOT IT!!!
> > >
> > > To anyone wondering what do to?  How about setting up HTTPS!!  That's
> not
> > > port 80 either!!  Most people would not object to allowing a secure
> > > connection either!  The other part of the work-around would be setting
> up
> > > alternative server names like "secure.domain.com" or the like as the
> > > redirected point of service.  I think that's a happy alternative for
> those
> > > with a blockage of port 80.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Fred James" <fredjame at concentric.net>
> > > To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2
> > >
> > > > My attempt to access your site produced:
> > > > >>
> > > > This browser does not implement CSS properly. To view this site you
> need
> > > > to download ia more recent browser. Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0+
> or
> > > > Netscape 6.0+ will work fine. To view a listing of CSS-compatible
> > > > browsers, go to http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/#browsers.
> > > >
> > > >  In the meantime, you can read my LiveJournal here.
> > > > <<
> > > > I am running Netscape Communicator 4.76 - just though you would like
> to
> > > > know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Travis Bell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 12:49:21PM -0500, Steve Egbert wrote:
> > > > > > I am not particularily pleased when AT&T @Home shutted port 80
> off.  A
> > > brief
> > > > > > chat with AT&T Customer Representative Staff states that this
> measure
> > > is a
> > > > > > permanent and indefinite measure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I the only AT&T @Home user who did _NOT_ get shut down?  I can
> still
> > > > > access my site (running on my home PC) from anywhere.  All of my
> friends
> > > > > can still get to it, and I can still see it from work, too.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://tjbell.dhs.org
> > > > >
> > > > > All of this days after the AT&T announcement.  I don't get it...
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Travis Bell  a.k.a.  MudPoet
> > > > > echo tjbexx at usa.nyz | tr xyz let
> > > > > ICQ: 6014042  -  AIM: MudPoet
> > > > > http://tjbell.dhs.org
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> > > > --
> > > > ...make every program a filter...
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