[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2

Sat Aug 11 12:34:16 CDT 2001

Well fortunately for you and me, the NTLUG web site contains the
presentation given in great detail!!  I can't remember where it is and I'm
too lazy to find it (was up too late last night), but it's all there... the
presentation was over Webmin + SSH.  Very informative.  Probably the best
presentation I've seen there.

Actually, you don't have to feel so bad about not making meetings... no
insult to anyone as I'm sure a lot of people get a lot from the meetings --
I don't -- but I'm just weird that way.  I do all manner of things with my
boxen but they are based mostly on necessity as my time is also scarce at
times... consequently, since I don't have much [any] need for printing, I
haven't learned anything so fundamental as how to print under Linux!!
There's a presentation I would be all over!  Hahahaha.... forget about
ipmasq, virtual domains, email, dns and crap like that... been there, done
that right?  Someone PLEASE show me how to PRINT!  Hahaha

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Camm" <bbai at onramp.net>
To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2

> well, one learns something new every day...
>
> pardon me for having (a) a more than full-time job and (b) a full-time
> family which prevents me from coming to meetings (as much as i'd like
> to).
>
> i sit here humbly admonished.
>
> david camm
>
> ps - would you care to share with wisdom with those of us who might want
> to know?
>
> Daniel Hauck wrote:
> >
> > A certificate from a CA is *NOT* required.  Go to the NTLUG meetings and
you
> > might have known that. ;)
> >
> > Secondly, the solution was, if I didn't need to spell it out was to have
> > someone else host a page at:
> >
> > http://www.domain.com
> >
> > Where the page does a redirect to:
> >
> > https://secure.domain.com
> >
> > Different names for different IPs.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Camm" <bbai at onramp.net>
> > To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 5:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2
> >
> > > while ssl support is now built into the latest versions of apache, in
> > > order for it to work,
> > > you need a certificate from a CA (certification authority) like
Verisign
> > > or Thawte, which is not free. Thawte is currently charging $125/year
(i
> > > think).
> > >
> > > also, if you change your url to https://www.mydomain.com/ think of the
> > > <exaggerate>hundreds of thousands </exaggerate> of surfers who have
hit
> > > your site and can't find it any more.
> > >
> > > this is NOT a real-world solution for personal websites.
> > >
> > > david camm
> > > advanced web systems
> > >
> > > Daniel Hauck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Obviously some of us survived and some of us didn't.  That's not to
say
> > they
> > > > aren't getting around to it later though...
> > > >
> > > > My brother's machine is still web-available as is mine and we are in
> > vastly
> > > > different areas.  I think they merely shut down some of the ones
> > producing
> > > > higher traffic.  It has definitely made a difference though... I am
down
> > to
> > > > only 100+ hits per day now as opposed to the previously higher rate
of
> > 500+.
> > > > (rates are guestimated, not measured and then approximated.)  I hope
> > they
> > > > don't block us all off or I will be forced to seek other
alternatives in
> > my
> > > > web hosting efforts...like running on port 8080 or 81 or something
like
> > > > that... I hate non-standard ports though... it's just kinda
ugly...oh
> > > > wait... :)  I GOT IT!!!
> > > >
> > > > To anyone wondering what do to?  How about setting up HTTPS!!
That's
> > not
> > > > port 80 either!!  Most people would not object to allowing a secure
> > > > connection either!  The other part of the work-around would be
setting
> > up
> > > > alternative server names like "secure.domain.com" or the like as the
> > > > redirected point of service.  I think that's a happy alternative for
> > those
> > > > with a blockage of port 80.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Fred James" <fredjame at concentric.net>
> > > > To: <discuss at ntlug.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:59 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Real dangers of CR2
> > > >
> > > > > My attempt to access your site produced:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > This browser does not implement CSS properly. To view this site
you
> > need
> > > > > to download ia more recent browser. Microsoft Internet Explorer
4.0+
> > or
> > > > > Netscape 6.0+ will work fine. To view a listing of CSS-compatible
> > > > > browsers, go to http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/#browsers.
> > > > >
> > > > >  In the meantime, you can read my LiveJournal here.
> > > > > <<
> > > > > I am running Netscape Communicator 4.76 - just though you would
like
> > to
> > > > > know.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Travis Bell wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 12:49:21PM -0500, Steve Egbert wrote:
> > > > > > > I am not particularily pleased when AT&T @Home shutted port 80
> > off.  A
> > > > brief
> > > > > > > chat with AT&T Customer Representative Staff states that this
> > measure
> > > > is a
> > > > > > > permanent and indefinite measure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I the only AT&T @Home user who did _NOT_ get shut down?  I
can
> > still
> > > > > > access my site (running on my home PC) from anywhere.  All of my
> > friends
> > > > > > can still get to it, and I can still see it from work, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://tjbell.dhs.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of this days after the AT&T announcement.  I don't get it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Travis Bell  a.k.a.  MudPoet
> > > > > > echo tjbexx at usa.nyz | tr xyz let
> > > > > > ICQ: 6014042  -  AIM: MudPoet
> > > > > > http://tjbell.dhs.org
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > ...make every program a filter...
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.ntlug.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>