[NTLUG:Discuss] Linux for the State of Texas?

Mon Apr 22 23:07:00 CDT 2002

Hi,
  Even i am frustated about the lack of Cut Copy Pasting in Linux.I was
thinking of starting off a project which would enable this CCP functionality
exactly the same way it is in Windows.

  Any voulenteers.I am serious about this!!

-- Harshal.

-----Original Message-----
From: falconjetflyer at netscape.net [mailto:falconjetflyer at netscape.net]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:52 AM
To: discuss at ntlug.org
Subject: RE: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Linux for the State of Texas?

Ok, I concider myself more computer savy than the average bear.
BUT,  My 9 months of experience with Linux has left me frustrated.
There are no standards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't paste between app's
Upgrades are a joke.   No that's not true, they are impossible except for
you programmers and software engineers.   
How do you expect the average government worker (not the sharpest pencil in
the pocket) to deal with all this. 
I LOVE LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you gurus need to make it a lot easier and reliable before our ethnicly
disabled government workers can use it.
And thems the fax jack
Garion

Dusty Matthews <dustym at riseup.net> wrote:

>I submitted a story to Slashdot too, I will probably submit one to
Kuro5hin, 
>as well.
>
>We should really not stand for this. Open Source software is a perfect 
>solution for government organisations. It is about time they wake up to the

>benifits of it.
>
>As open source advocates, we cannot make the government switch over night, 
>but we can wear on them and continue to lobby for the adoption of this kind

>of software, and maybe, over time, we will see a generation of enlightened 
>public officials.
>
>Dustym
>dustym at riseup.net 
>
>On Friday 19 April 2002 06:34, you wrote:
>> Hehehe... Good one!
>>
>> I just submitted the article to Slashdot to see if we can gain some
>> recognition on this issue.  I believe that shining the correct political
>> light on this matter will help to leverage our point of view on this.
>> Microsoft, the criminal-anti-trust-loser, has given the state of Texas a
>> very large bill that taxpayers will certainly NOT appreciate.  And if
there
>> is one thing that I know about the taxpayers of Texas, is that they don't
>> like to pay taxes and there's a great deal of political leverage there...
>> possibly moreso than in other states who currently have a state income
tax.
>> In this case, the taxpayers are the land and business owners.  Those are
>> the people who carry political influence in our state and those are the
>> people currently being offended by Microsoft and those are the people we
>> should find a way to carry the message to.
>>
>> Form an inteligent intiative that says "ween ourselves from Microsoft or
>> face $XXX million each year" in taxes and I believe the results would be
>> profound.  I personally know one attorney who could represent our
interests
>> in Dallas county... and possibly just for the fun of it!
>>
>> In politics, timing and public opinion are very important factors.  The
>> state's IT people will have to put up a very strong argument to stay with
>> Microsoft.  I happen to know that the state's comptrollers carry a lot
more
>> weight, however.  On Monster.com, I have found an opportunity listed:
>>
>> http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?jobid=14487962
>>
>> How appropriate.  It would appear that Tarrant County, a segment of the
>> same department charged $1.5M by Microsoft, is building a new project
using
>> all Microsoft enterprise servers in conjunction with AS/400's.  That's a
>> LOT of money spent on something that could very easily be tackled with a
>> free SQL server system.
>>
>> This is a chance for those who want to do their part in supporting and
>> promoting the use and popularity of open-source software who are not
>> programmers.  Many times I've asked myself "hey, what can you do?"
Here's
>> something I can do... and something you can do too.  I have written my
>> state representatives on this matter and I suppose I should also contact
my
>> more local government as well.  The letters do carry weight.  They will
>> carry more weight if we can get more publicity on this matter as well.
>>
>> Question:  What aspects could backfire?  Well, Microsoft could be using
>> this $1.5M bill as leverage to get Texas to buy more enterprise-level
>> licenses. It wouldn't be unheard of for Microsoft to offer a plan like
"buy
>> all this stuff and we'll forgive you the $1.5M."  Texans don't take it
that
>> way willingly though...  the time is now.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Baker" <sjbaker1 at airmail.net>
>> To: "NTLUG DISCUSS" <discuss at ntlug.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:12 PM
>> Subject: [NTLUG:Discuss] Linux for the State of Texas?
>>
>> > After our discussion of whether Texas should mandate use of
>> > OpenSource or not, I thought this was a timely article:
>> >
>> > http://www.austin360.com/aas/metro/041202/12prison.html
>> >
>> > (Basically, Microsoft think the state's prison service owes
>> > them $1.5M in licensing fees for what seems to me like nothing
>> > more than poor record keeping.)
>> >
>> > Since they don't have any budget to pay this bill, now might
>> > be a good time to point to Linux and say: "FREE"  (Although
>> > one could argue that Freedom isn't generally top of the
>> > Prison service's business practices!  :-)
>>
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