[NTLUG:Discuss] database(s) on Linux

iostream@attbi.com iostream at attbi.com
Thu Oct 3 12:35:26 CDT 2002


As an IT employee of Blockbuster, I can assure you, that
overhead does save us money versus some of the pre Oracle
manual processes.  Where do you get your figures from?

Jusitn
> Quoting iostream at attbi.com:
> 
> > 
> > <snip>
> > > > If Oracle, Sybase, or Informix had a reasonable price tag OSS
> > products 
> > > > like MySQL and PostgresSQL wouldn't have a following.
> > > 
> > > No argument from me.
> > > 
> > > Ry
> > 
> > That is not entirely true.  The feature set of Oracle is required for
> > many things, and corporations will gladly spend the money on such
> > features.  I doubt you will see many people trying to run a multi TB
> > data warehouse with any OSS tool, or a CRM datamart, etc.  Many
> > companies use these expensive database systems to do mission critical
> > work.  The databases save more than enough in operational costs, or
> > create enough extra revenue to easily justify the pricetag.  Lets face
> > it, if you are buying million dollar + servers, Oracle licensing fees
> > are not going to bankrupt you.
> > 
> > Justin
> > 
> 
> I have to ask, do you work for Oracle Justin?  At the current price of Oracle 
> because it is so expensive it is beneficial and truly cost effective to maybe 
> 10,000 businesses.  So at its cost you would consider it a bargain for those 
> companies.  What about the other 2.5 million companies in the United States 
> alone that are out there?  This is exactly what Greg was addressing by 
> contending that if the prices were reasonable for Oracle, Sybase or even 
> Informix the various open source solutions would not have the following they 
> have today.  How exactly is this not entirely true?
> 
> Also don't think that the licensing fees are the only costs involved in working 
> with these dbs.  Their complexity leads to expensive DBAs to manage, more 
> expensive people to develop in them, per processor fees for bug fixes disguised 
> as upgrades.  All of these lead up to price tags for total cost of ownership 
> that choke companies like Blockbuster and GM yearly.  How is some small to mid 
> sized business supposed to handle a nut as large as $800k to get a custom order 
> management system with a web interface just so they can integrate store sales 
> and internet sales?
> 
> I don't mean for this to be so inflammatory Justin but really you just attacked 
> a perfectly good point while you yourself were walking on water with your own 
> ethnocentric viewpoint totally ignoring the fact that the majority of companies 
> cannot afford oracle or the hidden costs that come along with it.
> 
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