[NTLUG:Discuss] is an AMD XP the same as a Celeron????

[Bug Hunter]

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Darin W. Smith wrote:

> On Wed, 28 May 2003 10:26:56 -0500, Richard Geoffrion <ntlug at rain4us.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > what gives?? Why is Intel using their CELERONs to compete with AMD??
> 
> The way I see this, is that Intel believes and has evidence that they can 
> still charge a premium over comparable AMD chips for their P3 and P4 
> "propers" and use the Celeron to compete with AMD because people looking at 
> a cheap system will be looking at the AMDs vs. the Celerons (*because* 
> Intel has purposely priced their other chips out of the "cheap PC" realm-- 
> Intel has effectively created this market comparison).
> 
> I've had both a Celeron and an AMD of comparable bus speed, and the AMD 
> always beat the Celeron in heavy math.  Integer operations (most Windoze 
> apps) were comparable...but then, integer ops are probably comparable 
> between the Celeron and any other similar speed chip of Intel's, IMO.
> 
> Basically, Intel is using their brand-name as a way to get higher prices on 
> their higher end stuff...targeting the server market and those who chant 
> "nobody ever got fired for buying Intel" like people used to chant "nobody 
> ever got fired for buying IBM."
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  One thing to note. I've had AMD chips burn up when heat sink had 
problems.  I haven't had Intel chips do the same.

 I have heard the new, high speed, P4 and Xeon Intel processors will burn 
up if you have heat sink problems (IE: the fan quits) and don't shut down 
quickly enough.