[NTLUG:Discuss] Cheap Server for Linux Webserver
Tom Adelstein
adelste at netscape.net
Fri Jul 18 11:12:24 CDT 2003
Kip,
Just be careful with the VIA ITX motherboards. A large quantity of them
got dumped on the US market. One way you can tell is that they use PC
100 and have USB 1.0 ports.
If you run across an ITX Board with DDR 266 RAM and the most current USB
ports, they will work as appliances with a single function. But not
"great".
I have heard that the Nehemiah 1Ghz motherboard is the best of breed
for VIA, but I don't have any direct experience with them.
kip at kdream.com wrote:
> At 08:59 AM 7/18/03, you wrote:
>
>> I just want to warn you about the VIA systems from Wal-Mart and
>> Fry's. For a desktop, you shouldn't have a problem with them. But, I
>> tried using them for servers in my lab and they didn't stay up
>> overnight. They are engineered for Linux as desktop platforms.
>>
>> As mentioned previously, P III coppermine processors will provide a
>> best of class solution. They run cooler and have a solid track record
>> as a server.
>>
>>
>>
>> severian at pobox.com wrote:
>>
>>> The Walmart $200 machines are available online only. I understand
>>> the shipping is high. I have seen people quote $70 as what they
>>> were charged for shipping that basic $200 system. Considering
>>> todays RAM prices, you certainly want at least 512 meg of ram And
>>> then based on your transaction rate, I bet disk drives will be your
>>> limiting factor, not CPU. But if you can afford to experiment get a
>>> basic box, up the RAM and see how it does.
>>> I would start with 512 meg to see how it does, but I bet you'll
>>> decide it is worthwhile to go higher.
>>> I also agree with Tom about Dell servers. I am sorry you rule
>>> them out. Good used Dell servers are reliable and pretty cheap.
>>>
>>> In response to the welcome remarks of Stuart Johnston at 11:35 PM
>>> 7/17/03 -0400:
>>>
>>>> actually having a little trouble determining how much RAM we need
>>>> but I'm pretty sure that 128 would not be enough.
>>>>
>>>> Can you even buy the $199 machines at WalMart stores or do you have
>>>> to get them online? (Seems like this has been discussed on list
>>>> before.)
>>>
>
> Now I am confused.
>
> I am looking at a 600 MHz VIA processor MINI-ITX board for an embedded
> processor project to control some equipment. I am choosing this
> because the Motherboard is small, and the processor does not need a
> fan. (Usually the first thing to fail.)
>
> To me data is data and processing is processing. There may be heavier
> loads and lighter loads, but in my case the servers are usually
> lighter loads than high resolution graphics intensive desktops.
>
> For my embedded system the processing load will be very light, (no
> monitor, or graphics) but they will have to be up 24/7. Please
> explain why you think they are not good servers. And why you think
> they are good desktop machines. What were you doing overnight that
> caused them to fail in your application?
>
> Kip
>
>
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