[NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore productsraisesconcerns

Tom Adelstein adelste at netscape.net
Sun Sep 14 16:11:09 CDT 2003


"Neil Aggarwal" <neil at JAMMConsulting.com> wrote:

>Greg:
>
>The real problem is that the cost of running a business in the
>US is far more expensive than running one overseas.
>
>The playing field is not a level one for US companies.
>
>How am I supposed to be able to compete against someone
>whose cost of operation is a tenth of mine?
>
>    Neil
>
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org 
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Edwards
>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:15 PM
>> To: NTLUG Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore 
>> productsraisesconcerns
>> 
>> 
>> Lance Simmons wrote:
>> 
>> > Consumers demand cheap avocados and cheap technology, and 
>> the Buchanan
>> > and Nader campaigns in 2000 uncovered no groundswell of support for
>> > limiting that demand.
>> > 
>> 
>> I grant that you're right on one front.  The consumer has 
>> accepted that 
>> price and perception over real quality is acceptable.  Part 
>> of that we 
>> can only blame ourselves for since our entire industry stood 
>> by and let 
>> Mr. Bill (SNL & Gates if you missed that one) convince upper 
>> management 
>> and the general user that there's no such thing as bug free software.
>> 
>> However you are way off on globalization.  The drain of 
>> technology jobs 
>> has nothing to do with free trade and gloablization.  Unlike many 
>> industries that have seen a mass exodus the labor costs for 
>> these jobs 
>> were a result of the free market system, not union wage 
>> negotiations.  I 
>> don't mean to sound cruel, but these are not textile workers 
>> earning 3 
>> times the value of their work.  These are the people that created the 
>> technology that some MBA type claims he should be paid 8 figures to 
>> oversee the demise of.  Engineers built MCI and MBAs destroyed it, 
>> that's a fact!!
>> 
>> Tom is right about the tech sector making a stand and not 
>> dying despite 
>> the best efforts of the so called business geniuses.  Where I see it 
>> happening right now is the number of people that have decided 
>> to write 
>> those new programs for the internet and the hell with IBM, Northern 
>> Telecom, AT&T, HP, Price Waterhouse, The Associates, and the rest of 
>> them.  These companies have made billions from our work and now they 
>> think they can make 10 times that by paying an Indian worker $8/hr.
>> 
>> I predict that in the next year the number of new independent 
>> software 
>> vendors selling products directly to users on the internet will 
>> overwhelm even the biggest software houses.  Hey, if they 
>> won't pay us 
>> to built it for them maybe we'll just pay ourselves for building it!!!
>> 
>> Let the MBAs have their 8 figure incomes and lets see them build the 
>> next Quicken or the next generation broadband without us!!!  And lets 
>> see them compete against the IP that they walked out the door 
>> with all 
>> of the product knowledge tucked neatly away in the heads leaving the 
>> building.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Greg Edwards
>> New Age Software, Inc. - http://www.nas-inet.com
>> ======================================================
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>> 
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Now that's complete BS.




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