[NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore productsraisesconcerns

Neil Aggarwal neil at JAMMConsulting.com
Sun Sep 14 17:37:06 CDT 2003


Tom:

What part of it is BS?

	Neil


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org 
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Tom Adelstein
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: NTLUG Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore 
> productsraisesconcerns
> 
> 
> "Neil Aggarwal" <neil at JAMMConsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> >Greg:
> >
> >The real problem is that the cost of running a business in the
> >US is far more expensive than running one overseas.
> >
> >The playing field is not a level one for US companies.
> >
> >How am I supposed to be able to compete against someone
> >whose cost of operation is a tenth of mine?
> >
> >    Neil
> >
> >
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> >Neil Aggarwal, JAMM Consulting, (972)612-6056, www.JAMMConsulting.com
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org 
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Edwards
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:15 PM
> >> To: NTLUG Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore 
> >> productsraisesconcerns
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Lance Simmons wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Consumers demand cheap avocados and cheap technology, and 
> >> the Buchanan
> >> > and Nader campaigns in 2000 uncovered no groundswell of 
> support for
> >> > limiting that demand.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I grant that you're right on one front.  The consumer has 
> >> accepted that 
> >> price and perception over real quality is acceptable.  Part 
> >> of that we 
> >> can only blame ourselves for since our entire industry stood 
> >> by and let 
> >> Mr. Bill (SNL & Gates if you missed that one) convince upper 
> >> management 
> >> and the general user that there's no such thing as bug 
> free software.
> >> 
> >> However you are way off on globalization.  The drain of 
> >> technology jobs 
> >> has nothing to do with free trade and gloablization.  Unlike many 
> >> industries that have seen a mass exodus the labor costs for 
> >> these jobs 
> >> were a result of the free market system, not union wage 
> >> negotiations.  I 
> >> don't mean to sound cruel, but these are not textile workers 
> >> earning 3 
> >> times the value of their work.  These are the people that 
> created the 
> >> technology that some MBA type claims he should be paid 8 
> figures to 
> >> oversee the demise of.  Engineers built MCI and MBAs destroyed it, 
> >> that's a fact!!
> >> 
> >> Tom is right about the tech sector making a stand and not 
> >> dying despite 
> >> the best efforts of the so called business geniuses.  
> Where I see it 
> >> happening right now is the number of people that have decided 
> >> to write 
> >> those new programs for the internet and the hell with IBM, 
> Northern 
> >> Telecom, AT&T, HP, Price Waterhouse, The Associates, and 
> the rest of 
> >> them.  These companies have made billions from our work 
> and now they 
> >> think they can make 10 times that by paying an Indian worker $8/hr.
> >> 
> >> I predict that in the next year the number of new independent 
> >> software 
> >> vendors selling products directly to users on the internet will 
> >> overwhelm even the biggest software houses.  Hey, if they 
> >> won't pay us 
> >> to built it for them maybe we'll just pay ourselves for 
> building it!!!
> >> 
> >> Let the MBAs have their 8 figure incomes and lets see them 
> build the 
> >> next Quicken or the next generation broadband without 
> us!!!  And lets 
> >> see them compete against the IP that they walked out the door 
> >> with all 
> >> of the product knowledge tucked neatly away in the heads 
> leaving the 
> >> building.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Greg Edwards
> >> New Age Software, Inc. - http://www.nas-inet.com
> >> ======================================================
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> >> 
> >> 
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> 
> Now that's complete BS.
> 
> 
> 
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