[NTLUG:Discuss] OT: Fried

Allen Flick AllenFlick at UTDallasAlumni.com
Mon Feb 9 16:57:50 CST 2004


Hmmmmm  ....... Top post ?  Bottom post ?  I can never get it straight.
I'll do it inline.  How's that?


> > I've really had enough of this H1-B visa crap!!!  Did anyone catch the
> > Tech-Bits note in the Dallas Morning News about 43,500 of the authorized
> > 65,000 H1-B visas for this year already being used.  Again the reason
> > given for hiring these people is that American workers can't be found to
> > fill these jobs.

You're 100% correct here.  An added quirk to the whole thing is that "they"
don't give us Americans a chance to bid on the jobs. It's the old "I know what
they'll cost, no matter the economy, so I won't even talk to them".

I knew way back in May of 2001 that I was fried  when the PR person I
talked to at a telecom company told me to not look for any return call because
he was only doing his legal duty of talking to X number of Americans before
he hired the H1B he wanted.


> >
> > BULLSHIT!!!!
> >
> > It's about GREED not about qualifications or lack of local workers.
> > Those of you that want to defend this BS just stick a sock in it!!!!
> >
> > With over 360,000 IT workers in this country collecting unemployment and
> > an unknown number working as greeters at Walmart or asking if you want
> > fries with that, this dog just don't hunt!!  And don't even try that
> > argument about better trained or superior skills.  Tell those (and I
> > know several) people that trained the cheaper worker who gave them the
> > pleasure of collecting unemployment!@!!
> >
> > The last 3 years have been about nothing more that greed.  Starting at
> > the White House, the congress, the state houses, the corporate board
> > rooms, and the executive suites.  And like good little lambs us little
> > people have paraded ourselves right into the slaughter house.  Our
> > entire economy, technical lead, and future have been sold to the lowest
> > bidder.
> >
> > People better wake up and smell the roses because it's already too late.
> >   This so called recovery has created an economy that builds nothing and
> > creates nothing.  Of the job loss 32% has been from the tech industry
> > and over 20% from manufacturing.  We're beginning to look like Japan, an
> > economic also-ran.  Microsoft, HP, Dell, GE, Alcatel, Honeywell, and a
> > list as long as my arm no longer build or design it here, they just sell
> > it here!!!
> >
> > Alcatel just closed the doors on an entire department and moved the
> > work, not the workers, to Canada.

This is not the first time they've done that.  Seems the Socialist countries have
it where government approval is required to lay off people.  So, Alcatel, and
the like, come over here, establish some U.S. presence, and when needed to
cut back, they simply cut the U.S. jobs and ship them back to Europe.


>  Verizon will be cutting again.
> > Companies that are expanding are not expanding in the US.  And when they
> > do hire it's at 50%-60% of 1999 salaries.
>

The other replier wasn't entirely correct when he stated that DC couldn't do
anything.  I hang on to the hope that with enough pressure and constant
haranguing (sic?) someone there just might get concerned about the voters
that put them there and might be able to remove them from there.

Dreams.  Aren't they wonderful?





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