[NTLUG:Discuss] Need a volunteer for the Linux Fair 2/21

terry kj5zr at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 20 18:26:00 CST 2004


terry wrote:
> Chris Cox wrote:
> 
>> I need someone to coordinate getting drinks/coolers and pizza 
>> handled.  I plan to be present as one of the demonstrations this
>> time.  Anyone want to help out with this?
>>
>> I (or our treasurer) can help out with funding issues (knowing that
>> we don't have a huge amount of money in the treasury!).
>>
>> We probably need two coolers with ice and at least 250 cans of
>> drinks.
>>
>> We need paper towels, cups and plates for 250 (might be able to skip
>> cups if drinks are cold enough... perhaps that will make it simpler).
>>
>>
>> I (or the volunteer) will order about 60 pizzas (mix, but no alfredo
>> and only 1 or 2 spinach pizza... cheese is ok, veggie definitely and
>> the usual sort for the rest) from CiCi's for pickup around 11:30am
>> from the CiCi's on Beltline (toward Irving Mall... roughly between
>> 114 and Irving Mall)... can't remember the cross street.  It's on the
>> West side.  So you need to coordinate the movement of 60 pizzas
>> somehow.
>>
>> Email me directly at: <cjcox at acm.org>
>>
>> Sorry about the late notice, Chris
>>
> 
> May I suggest:
> We can order from Diminos, I just called Lucas,(the supervisor), and we
> can get multi topping pizzas for $8 and single topping for $5.50.  They 
> WILL deliver and supply hot boxes to keep pizza's warm, (it's  very hard 
> to keep that many pizzas warm without "hot boxes"). They will do a timed 
> order, have them DELIVERED when needed, just give one day notice, call 
> 817-355-8888, ask for Lucas (refference, Terry & Gayle). Please email me 
> back so we can tell them to expect your call and the order. Dominos 
> pizza is better, can pay with credit card, over the phone, much easier 
> etc. besides, my wife, Gayle, will kill me if I let  you buy from CiCis, 
> (she is a District Manager for this franchise), & this franchise uses 
> Linux OS on all store computers and have for YEARS.
> 
> 
> 
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david evans wrote:

 > Willl the fair be help at the nokia building?


Yes.  We will use the Linux Installation Project
room and possibly surrounding rooms behind the
main presentation area.

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Robert Citek wrote:

 >
 > On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 01:30  PM, Chris Cox wrote:
 >
 >> Directions and info can be gotten from the http://www.ntlug.org/cal.html
 >> page, specific directions at http://www.ntlug.org/directions.html
 >
 >
 >
 > Do you have more information on what will be happening at the fair? 
For example, will there be demonstrations?  If so, of what?


We'll have some Apple equipment running Linux.
We'll have some embedded Linux stuff there (some dedicated applicances).
We'll have some SMP equipment running Linux.
We'll have some full 3D accelerated gaming platforms.
We'll have some SFF equipment running Linux.
We'll have some people doing video media capture/editing (including 
Cinelerra!).
We'll have some Novell demos there.
We'll have some demos of intrusion detection and vulnerability detection.
We'll have some Wiki and T-Mobile demos!! (cuz you just can't get enough
    T-Mobile!!)

All using various distibutions of Linux (many different ones).



 > Is this also an InstallFest?


No.  However, NTLUG does an Install Fest as a normal part of its
normal meetings.  It's called the Linux Installation Project.
Other LUGs do periodic Install Fests... we do it EVERY month (except
at the Linux Fair.. sorry).

 >  If so, what should I bring to get Linux installed on my machine?


If you can wait until the March meeting, you will need to bring
everything with you.. keyboard/mouse/monitor/cpu.  If you have
a distribution you want installed... bring it.. otherwise, the
LIP team has several to pick from (though I'm not sure of the
exact list at the moment... most is fairly recent I believe).


 >  Will there be training sessions?


We do a Beginning Linux training every month as a part of
the regular meetings... that's at 10am.  We will not be doing
that this month because of the Linux Fair.

 >  If so, at what level of expertise?


The training is beginner focused.... there was a group interested
in doing a more advanced set of classes though... but it hasn't
solidified yet (hey... it's a volunteer org... it takes longer
to make something happend and stick!).

 > If I want to demo something, can I?  Whom do I talk to?  Will there 
be Internet access?  Will there be WiFi?
 >

Send me a direct email <cjcox at acm.org>.  We may have internet.
I will have a couple of 8 port switches with me.


 > And, of course, do you need help and, if so, how can I help?


Well... I think it's too close to get anymore help... I'm
going to handle the drinks and we have an insider at
Domino's that is helping with the Pizza.

Stay loose at the fair... we may need some adhoc volunteers
periodically.

But thanks for asking!!
Chris
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On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 11:15  AM, Chris Cox wrote:

 > We'll have some Apple equipment running Linux.


Excellent.  What type of Apples?  New Macs or older Macs?  I ask because 
I have been looking for a Knoppix-like linux distro to demo Linux on my 
PowerBook G4.  So far, I have not found anything nearly as polished as 
Knoppix for the x86.

 > We'll have some embedded Linux stuff there (some dedicated applicances).
 > We'll have some SMP equipment running Linux.
 > We'll have some full 3D accelerated gaming platforms.
 > We'll have some SFF equipment running Linux.


SFF?  "Small form factor"?

 > We'll have some people doing video media capture/editing (including 
Cinelerra!).
 > We'll have some Novell demos there.
 > We'll have some demos of intrusion detection and vulnerability detection.
 > We'll have some Wiki and T-Mobile demos!! (cuz you just can't get 
enough T-Mobile!!)


Wonderful stuff.  Will all these things be happening concurrently or is 
there a schedule?

 > All using various distibutions of Linux (many different ones).


Any demos of a Linux office environment?  For example, two networked 
computers, a printer, a scanner, and an Internet connection with OSS 
applications (OpenOffice and Mozilla).

 >>  Will there be training sessions?
 >
 >
 > We do a Beginning Linux training every month as a part of
 > the regular meetings... that's at 10am.  We will not be doing
 > that this month because of the Linux Fair.


What I meant by training sessions was a live how-to on setting up a 
wiki, video capture, IDS, VPN, etc.

 >> And, of course, do you need help and, if so, how can I help?
 >
 >
 > Well... I think it's too close to get anymore help... I'm
 > going to handle the drinks and we have an insider at
 > Domino's that is helping with the Pizza.
 >
 > Stay loose at the fair... we may need some adhoc volunteers
 > periodically.


Fair enough.

Regards,
- Robert
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Robert Citek wrote:

 >
 > On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 11:15  AM, Chris Cox wrote:
 >
 >> We'll have some Apple equipment running Linux.
 >
 >
 >
 > Excellent.  What type of Apples?  New Macs or older Macs?  I ask 
because I have been looking for a Knoppix-like linux distro to demo 
Linux on my PowerBook G4.  So far, I have not found anything nearly as 
polished as Knoppix for the x86.


Rick Cook is planning on bringing his G4 duallie and possibly a
Powerbook 3400c and maybe even an iBook.

 >
 >> We'll have some embedded Linux stuff there (some dedicated applicances).
 >> We'll have some SMP equipment running Linux.
 >> We'll have some full 3D accelerated gaming platforms.
 >> We'll have some SFF equipment running Linux.
 >
 >
 >
 > SFF?  "Small form factor"?


I'll have my Cappucino G1 (http://www.saintsong.com) running
SUSE 9. The embedded stuff is done on SFF boards as well.

I may bring my Cyclades TS2000 unit... it's definitely a
required piece of equipment for any datacenter.

 >
 >> We'll have some people doing video media capture/editing (including 
Cinelerra!).
 >> We'll have some Novell demos there.
 >> We'll have some demos of intrusion detection and vulnerability 
detection.
 >> We'll have some Wiki and T-Mobile demos!! (cuz you just can't get 
enough T-Mobile!!)
 >
 >
 >
 > Wonderful stuff.  Will all these things be happening concurrently or 
is there a schedule?


Concurrently... like a mini-conference.  The trick is getting to a chair
to sit and talk with the person demonstrating... otherwise, you can
usually hover and ask questions as well.

 >
 >> All using various distibutions of Linux (many different ones).
 >
 >
 >
 > Any demos of a Linux office environment?  For example, two networked 
computers, a printer, a scanner, and an Internet connection with OSS 
applications (OpenOffice and Mozilla).


I'll probably bring an inkjet HP 850C (a bit old... but a good
workhorse... for an inkjet).  I probably won't bring my scanner,
and I'm not sure if anyone else is bringing one.  I will have
a plethora of Windoze SW installed and working, including
Office 2000, Visio, maybe PhotoShop.  Also will have several
Windows games... I think about 15 or so... including UT2004,
though the Linux version plays better than the Windows one (duh).

My SMP machine will be networked with my Cappuccino and my laptop.
I guess I'll setup some file sharing stuff... and I'll have lots
of VMware examples as well (if you just have to see Windows
working with all of it).

Obviously I'll have the good non-Microsoft stuff too... OpenOffice
and Mozilla.  I'm running Mozilla 1.6 currently.

I'm not stealing the show though... I just don't know the full
details of what everyone else is bringing.

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On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 01:39  PM, Chris Cox wrote:

 > Rick Cook is planning on bringing his G4 duallie and possibly a
 > Powerbook 3400c and maybe even an iBook.


I'll bring my PowerBook G4.

 > I'll have my Cappucino G1 (http://www.saintsong.com) running
 > SUSE 9. The embedded stuff is done on SFF boards as well.


Nice.  I've never seen one of these.  I could not find the G1.  Did you 
mean the GX1:
   http://www.saintsong.com/english/products/Cappuccino/gx1/all-cgx1.htm
I assume yours does not have the CD or DVD.

 > I may bring my Cyclades TS2000 unit... it's definitely a
 > required piece of equipment for any datacenter.


Very nice:
   http://www.cyclades.com/products/2/ts_series

 > Concurrently... like a mini-conference.  The trick is getting to a chair
 > to sit and talk with the person demonstrating... otherwise, you can
 > usually hover and ask questions as well.


... with followups on this list, no doubt.

 > I'll probably bring an inkjet HP 850C (a bit old... but a good
 > workhorse... for an inkjet).  I probably won't bring my scanner,
 > and I'm not sure if anyone else is bringing one.  I will have
 > a plethora of Windoze SW installed and working, including
 > Office 2000, Visio, maybe PhotoShop.  Also will have several
 > Windows games... I think about 15 or so... including UT2004,
 > though the Linux version plays better than the Windows one (duh).


On what will the Windows software be running, on Windows or VMWare on 
Linux?  Both would be good to truly demonstrate how Linux can 
interoperate with Windows.

 > My SMP machine will be networked with my Cappuccino and my laptop.
 > I guess I'll setup some file sharing stuff... and I'll have lots
 > of VMware examples as well (if you just have to see Windows
 > working with all of it).


Yup.  I do want to see Windows working with all of it.  And OS X working 
with all of it, too.  I am imagining a scenario where some local 
government official or small business leader came up to me and said 
"Robert, this Linux stuff is nice and all.  But we have already invested 
a lot of time and money in hardware, software, and training.  We simply 
cannot afford to dump all that and switch to Linux.  That's why we are 
staying the course with Windows."  To which I would like to reply, "You 
don't have to dump all that.  Linux plays nicely with Windows as I saw 
demonstrated at the last Linux Fair.  For example, I saw Chris and 
others demonstrate {blah, blah, blah}.  For more details, check out 
their website www.ntlug.org or contact Chris directly."

 > Obviously I'll have the good non-Microsoft stuff too... OpenOffice
 > and Mozilla.  I'm running Mozilla 1.6 currently.


Have you tried Mozilla's Firefox, the sequel to Mozilla's Firebird?  Was 
just released the other day.  Runs on Linux, Windows, OS X, and probably 
others:
   http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

 > I'm not stealing the show though... I just don't know the full
 > details of what everyone else is bringing.


There's more?  What are the others bringing?  No need to hold back now. 
  This is great stuff.

Regards,
- Robert


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Robert Citek wrote:

 >
 > On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 01:39  PM, Chris Cox wrote:

....

 >> I'll have my Cappucino G1 (http://www.saintsong.com) running
 >> SUSE 9. The embedded stuff is done on SFF boards as well.
 >
 >
 >
 > Nice.  I've never seen one of these.  I could not find the G1.  Did 
you mean the GX1:
 >   http://www.saintsong.com/english/products/Cappuccino/gx1/all-cgx1.htm
 > I assume yours does not have the CD or DVD.


It's the older G1... no longer sold.  But you can see it throughout
the net.  It's an 810e chipset.

For example: http://www.unicomplabs.com/spacesaving/cappuccinopc.asp

 >
 >> I may bring my Cyclades TS2000 unit... it's definitely a
 >> required piece of equipment for any datacenter.
 >
 >
 >
 > Very nice:
 >   http://www.cyclades.com/products/2/ts_series

....

 > On what will the Windows software be running, on Windows or VMWare on 
Linux?  Both would be good to truly demonstrate how Linux can 
interoperate with Windows.


It's sufficient for Windows to be running under VMware on Linux... there is
no difference (nothing that matters anyway).  I don't do any native
Windows anymore... there is no need for it.

...

 > Yup.  I do want to see Windows working with all of it.  And OS X 
working with all of it, too.  I am imagining a scenario where some local 
government official or small business leader came up to me and said 
"Robert, this Linux stuff is nice and all.  But we have already invested 
a lot of time and money in hardware, software, and training.  We simply 
cannot afford to dump all that and switch to Linux.  That's why we are 
staying the course with Windows."  To which I would like to reply, "You 
don't have to dump all that.  Linux plays nicely with Windows as I saw 
demonstrated at the last Linux Fair.  For example, I saw Chris and 
others demonstrate {blah, blah, blah}.  For more details, check out 
their website www.ntlug.org or contact Chris directly."


I'll probably post some screenshots to the screenshots section of
the website (link at bottom the front page).  Most people just don't
realize how much actually does work now with regards to M$ software.

 >
 >> Obviously I'll have the good non-Microsoft stuff too... OpenOffice
 >> and Mozilla.  I'm running Mozilla 1.6 currently.
 >
 >
 >
 > Have you tried Mozilla's Firefox, the sequel to Mozilla's Firebird? 
Was just released the other day.  Runs on Linux, Windows, OS X, and 
probably others:
 >   http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


Obviously... like everyone, we will all move to firefox.
I haven't tried it yet.  It still has a few glitches here and there...
of course Mozilla does too, but some of the glitches from Mozilla
haven't been fixed yet in Firefox (gleaned from reading messages
on mail lists and such).


 > There's more?  What are the others bringing?  No need to hold back 
now.  This is great stuff.


Everyone (demo'ing) feel free to post about your setups if you like.


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On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:39:59PM -0600, Chris Cox wrote:

 >> Office 2000, Visio, maybe PhotoShop.  Also will have several
 >> Windows games... I think about 15 or so... including UT2004,
 >> though the Linux version plays better than the Windows one (duh).
 >>

I can bring a box with 64bit UT2004 demo most likely (they just released
it, and I dont have too much time for games, but I did download it.)  I can
also bring an Athlon 64bit laptop, to burn Fedora CDs for people. (Note
laptop is not fully Fedora Supported yet) but should be soon.

Justin

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Justin M. Forbes wrote:

 > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:39:59PM -0600, Chris Cox wrote:
 >
 >> Office 2000, Visio, maybe PhotoShop.  Also will have several
 >> Windows games... I think about 15 or so... including UT2004,
 >> though the Linux version plays better than the Windows one (duh).
 >>
 >
 > I can bring a box with 64bit UT2004 demo most likely (they just released
 > it, and I dont have too much time for games, but I did download it.) 
  I can
 > also bring an Athlon 64bit laptop, to burn Fedora CDs for people. (Note
 > laptop is not fully Fedora Supported yet) but should be soon.


I'll drop the UT2004 server on the G1 if you want to do some
network play.



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