[NTLUG:Discuss] Debian vs Ubuntu vs (your hometown hero)

[Zac Brown]

The Ubuntu installer is in fact a modified version of the new Debian
installer. No difference between the installers except Ubuntu wrote
their own 'progression' script making it ask fewer questions and be more
friendly to the newer users.

As for Yum and FC... well being a python programmer by trade, I've seen
the Yum code and its terrible coding. The other thing that has bugged me
for the last few years that I've seen Yum is the fact that it gives no
indication of what its doing half of the time. On one of my boxes I have
FC2 installed and I'll run a "yum update all" from my other desktop via
ssh and it just sits... and sits... and may sit for a good 10-15 minutes
before it tells me jack squat. So hands down, if you're going FC way
which it is a great distro, you ought to look into to apt for RPM, works
beautifully, which is what I switched that box over to after having the
frustration of yum for a couple months. Yum sucks hardcore in terms of
intuition and letting the user know what its doing. I've heard similar
complaints from friends who tried out FC as well.

As for picking between Debian and Ubuntu, its really just a matter of
preference. I myself use Ubuntu on my desktops and Debian on my servers
(4 desktops, 2 servers at home). Though I considering the news as of
late about Ubuntu not dove-tailing nicely with Debian, I don't know
where that will go. I chose Ubuntu for the desktops because its easy to
work with and its really all I need since I'm too lazy to really
configure a lot of things anymore. I've done the LFS's and Gentoos and
just really got tired of that so I let Ubuntu think for me now.

Cheers



On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 18:03 -0500, Ralph Green, Jr. wrote:
> Howdy,
>  Ubuntu is nice, but it is Debian.  The biggest
> advantages are that Ubuntu has a nice installer
> and the package selection is well thought out.
> The classic Debian installer was not suitable for
> most people.  It asked hundreds of questions.  The
> new Debian installer. which was still in beta when
> I looked last, is pretty good, but not as stable as
> the Ubuntu one.  I expect it will get to be fine,
> but I don't think it is ready yet.  Ubuntu 5.04 uses
> Gnome 2.10, which I like.  It is setup with
> repositories for most everything, out of the box
> (although you have to turn two of them on).  So far,
> I have had to add only one package that was not in
> the built in repositories and I think that is pretty
> good.  I am sure you can get everything with plain
> Debian that Ubuntu has, but it will take a little
> more work.  I really suggest you try them both and
> see what you think.
> Good luck,
> Ralph
> 
> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 15:17 -0500, Johnny Cybermyth wrote:
> > different than the other?  As I see it, it all comes down to the install 
> > process itself, but I haven't used either of these distros enough to 
> > tell beyond that.
> 
> 
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