[NTLUG:Discuss] Giving Up On FEDORA

[Leroy Tennison]

On 01/06/2010 09:26 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> On 01/04/2010 06:33 AM, Allen Meyers wrote:
>>> No matter how many bells and whistles development puts into an OS it
>>> is no better then the support offered by the forum. I went into Fedora
>>> with high expectations and dropped it because of its non responsive
>>> attitude to the newbie.
>>
>> Could it be that no one answered because you're asking impossible
>> questions?  "Hi, I've totally buggared my system because I did it
>> totally wrong, can someone help me?"  That's not going to get any
>> meaningful answers, sorry.  Really, the only answer is to go read the
>> docs and do it the right way.
>>
>> Also, use the mailing list, not the forum.  There are a lot more
>> professionals on the list:
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
>>
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> 
> 
> I want to step in here on this.  I have been on a number of mailing 
> lists, and in any number of forums, and I have seen people ask these 
> questions, but it is extremely rare.  What I have seen (More often than 
> not) is, when a question is asked by someone who is either new to Linux, 
> or not a developer/programmer, they get a response like, "Well, do you 
> actually want to learn about your system, or do you just want to take 
> the easy way out to solve your problem?"  That kind of smug, 
> self-righteous, weaselly evasiveness really pisses me off.  Normally, 
> because I am not a programmer/developer, I just want my system to do 
> what I need it to do.  And yes, I have totally hosed my system, and I 
> have also asked what I needed to do to fix it, and I think I have done 
> so on this list.  And I got a viable, effective answer.  And I cannot 
> tell you how rare that is.  I will not participate in the Debian mailing 
> lists anymore.  I have learned my lesson long ago.  There are other 
> lists I will not be found on for similar reasons, as well as forums 
> which shall forever remain not listed in my bookmarks and also for 
> similar reasons.  So please, when someone says they are avoiding some 
> distro because of the difficulty of doing something, don't just think 
> they have asked the questions wrongly and avoid or abandon them.  They 
> may be stating the problems they encountered in the best way they know 
> how.  It isn't always an id10t problem.  Sometimes it really is a crappy 
> program.  Peace, Dennis at work in Edna
> 

Hmmm, as someone who just switched to Debian, tell me about your Debian
mailing lists experience.