[NTLUG:Discuss] Local C/C++/Unix Jobs discussion.

Stephen Davidson gorky at freenet.carleton.ca
Thu Dec 23 07:25:20 CST 2004


Greetings.
Sorry for this disjointed email, I have not had my coffee yet, and I 
have an unusually busy day in front of me.

I have just posted a general call for resumes on the jobs list.  I know 
I am going to get "hammered" for that, but I will do my best to deal 
with it.  Basically, I had a quick conversation yesterday with the 
recruiter who landed me my current contract.  He informed me of the fact 
that he is currently having trouble finding people to fill the orders 
that are being placed with him.  Currently, his "in demands" are Java 
(some, another recruiter has more, including for a customer I am already 
familiar with), and C/C++ people with a Unix background.  Apparently, a 
whole team is wanted of the C/C++ guys.  I am guessing similar to the 
order that was placed that got me on site (they took 3 Javas and a 
tester to strengthen that particular team).  I had discussed potential 
openings with this individual's partner last week, and was told to get 
in touch with him at earliest opportunity (I was unaware at the time of 
who had what openings, and I did not want to spam resumes around).  With 
a couple of exceptions, (who have already been contacted offlist), if 
you had sent me your resume earlier, it would be a good idea to resend.

I should point out, please do NOT expect 2000-2001 salaries.  In many 
cases, those were overinflated in our industry due to the Dot.Com boom.  
I can't answer for Linux/Unix or C/C++, but I can answer for Java.  The 
current going rate for a Java Developer with 3-5 years Java experience 
and 8-10 years overall seems to be about 60-75/hr (although you may be 
able to find a sucker or two that will take $50/hr).  In 2000, the same 
exprience could be billed at $100 - $150/hr (I was just getting started 
then, at 5 - 8 years general, 1 year Java, I was being billed at $100/hr).

Agencies can bill higher, but they will generally take the extra as 
their "cut" (Hey, if they can find me a job, they deserve a cut, so long 
as I am making a decent amount too!).  The agencies also supply certain 
guarentees and some (like the one requesting help right) supply some 
really nice benefits.

So, before you set your rate (or before you quote your rate), PLEASE 
research to find out what the current going rates are.  And when dealing 
with an agency, remember that they are in it for themselves.  The good 
ones will pay a fair rate, but only if you ask (and if they have asked a 
high enough rate from the customer - which they normally do).

Regards,
Steve

-- 
Java/J2EE Developer/Integrator
Stephen Davidson and Associates, Inc.
Past Chair, Dallas/FortWorth J2EE Sig
214-724-7741





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